Who Should have Won LK VS Sylvanas

[Polybius]

Viewers questioning Sylvanas' power (or wits) haven't paid attention to the story. They likely stopped playing years ago and only stick to cinematics. It's like Horde players who complain about Jaina's powers without playing the Alliance story or having a look at other powerful mages. The Pikaface deserves a /bonk

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Compare Sylvanas in the War of Thorns almost losing to Malfurion. Then look at the Shadowlands cinematic.

Blizzard’s “power levels” are all over the place. Paying attention to them is a complete and utter waste of time unless dialogue makes a specific mention to it.

Given that malfurion is leaps and bounds ahead of bolvar your just painting her in a better light.

She went toe to toe with an uber powerful Druid who is one of the if not the strongest mortals on Azeroth and then after that beat a far weaker bolvar who isn’t even close to nmarthas who sylvanas also held her own against before any power increases.

[Deathpony]

Sylvanas won because she's a 110 twink.

[TSBasilisk]

Compare Sylvanas in the War of Thorns almost losing to Malfurion. Then look at the Shadowlands cinematic.

Blizzard’s “power levels” are all over the place. Paying attention to them is a complete and utter waste of time unless dialogue makes a specific mention to it.

Actually, there was a progression in her power if you look at the expansion in order.

While fighting Malfurion she was losing and her powers were fairly minor, with the most impressive being her binding the Alliance player so they couldn't interfere. So she wasn't all that powerful at that moment.

Then we get the Battle for Lordaeron wherein she displays new powers: Her banshee transformation, single-handedly destroying a siege tower, raising an army of undead with her own power. This was a significant jump in power.

Finally we get to her facing Bolvar and she absolutely dominates him with even more power.

In between these events, there were massive amounts of death. The War of the Thorns sent a massive amount of souls into the Maw, many of them being ancient and likely rich with Anima. That's how she went from jobbing to Malfurion to dominating in Lordaeron. And since that point even more people, many of them rich with Anima like Rastakhan, have died and gone into the Maw, further boosting the power Sylvanas can access. The problem is Blizz didn't make it clear that her growth in power was notable until 8.2.5 when people started panicking that Saurfang couldn't hope to fight Sylvanas/she was using unusual magic. The plot line was there but it was out of focus.

[huth]

Finally we get to her facing Bolvar and she absolutely dominates him with even more power.

Except she doesn't really use any of it. Running around and shooting arrows isn't exactly something she couldn't do before, and Bolvar can lob those ice spires around far more casually than her.

[Onvious]

dont forget that when sylvanas regain her free will. she almost killed DK Arthas if keltuzad didnt show up magically

[VinceVega]

Vote who should have won and we will let the fans decide. Not some "PC" writer.

Good god... stop throwing around PC everywhere... what is PC in WOW? There are a few female characters in the focus for one addon and BAM, poeple cry PC... there is nothing else PC in the whole game. Hell they don't even mention half the stuff the anti-pc crowd whines all the time. Like Sexuality and race stuff...

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Yes it still is, there was no build up its just haha I have special powers that no one knows about or has ever seen ever in the history of Azeroth. Given by some entity that doesnt even have a name yet and who hasnt existed until now. Its sloppy story telling

No it is not. It is just the other way we are used to. Normally we for some magical reason know why characters suddenly got strong. But the whole point of the story is that she did not want us to know until now. And now we have a new story where we find out how it happend. Not everything has to be explained before we encounter it. Gives stories a bit of mystery and not just the feeling of well nothing....

[A Princess From Norway]

The one who should have won, did so.

[Muajin76]

Arthas vs Sylvanas end up with who absorb more souls and that will be the winner, this jailer who gave Sylvanas her powers seem to be a lich king of shadowlands, you could say he/she is what Arthas could have been if we didn't kill him

Its funny how Sylvanas story end up to be a copy paste or Arthas, kinda disappointing of the lack of imagination blizz had with her

Ahh..now that you mention that, it seems almost copied from the LK story. Absorbing souls and gaining power. I think LK didnt go out and mass kill people for their souls, like sylvanas did. :P

[TSBasilisk]

Arthas spearheaded the slaughter of the parts of Lordaeron that hadn't fallen to the plague already before he was turned.

[Villager720]

he is trying to diplomatically say that she would still win


at least it confirms Arthas >>> Bolvar, which most of us already knew

Who is legitimately arguing the “just a paladin”, never had prior necromatic experience, lacking Frostmourne guy even remotely compared to Arthas?

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Its funny how Sylvanas story end up to be a copy paste or Arthas, kinda disappointing of the lack of imagination blizz had with her

Becoming the thing you hate/created you is a pretty tried and true literary technique.
Not sure I’d fault Blizzard for this unless we also don’t want any of their characters to embark archetypal hero’ journeys or the like.

[Vampyrr]

Good god... stop throwing around PC everywhere... what is PC in WOW? There are a few female characters in the focus for one addon and BAM, poeple cry PC... there is nothing else PC in the whole game. Hell they don't even mention half the stuff the anti-pc crowd whines all the time. Like Sexuality and race stuff...

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No it is not. It is just the other way we are used to. Normally we for some magical reason know why characters suddenly got strong. But the whole point of the story is that she did not want us to know until now. And now we have a new story where we find out how it happend. Not everything has to be explained before we encounter it. Gives stories a bit of mystery and not just the feeling of well nothing....

Well the execution was off because hardly anyone seems invested and most just want her gone rather than to explore why shes superbuffed

[rips]

sylvanas almost kills ARTHAS like x Times - nobody gives a fuck
sylvanas defeats a much much much much WEAKER version of a LK without Frostmourne - omg how could she, what a bullshit powerup

[keyboardshinobi]

Compare Sylvanas in the War of Thorns almost losing to Malfurion. Then look at the Shadowlands cinematic.

Blizzard’s “power levels” are all over the place. Paying attention to them is a complete and utter waste of time unless dialogue makes a specific mention to it.

War of thorns is Prior to her getting a huge amount of people killed and sent to the maw

Shadowlands trailer is after a huge Horde Alliance war, and An old god raising up and killing even more, all of which go to the maw which she is drawing power from.

[Aeula]

War of thorns is Prior to her getting a huge amount of people killed and sent to the maw

Shadowlands trailer is after a huge Horde Alliance war, and An old god raising up and killing even more, all of which go to the maw which she is drawing power from.

Most players don't know that though, that's what I'm saying. It was poorly told to the players.

Most people see Bolvar vs Sylvanas and think that Bolvar must = Arthas and Arthas beat Sylvanas so how did this happen? At least from the comments I've been seeing about it.

[Hastis]

I guess now even hogger is able to kill LK
Bolvar is no longer powerfull he never was..

[Casperite]

Vote who should have won and we will let the fans decide. Not some "PC" writer.

What is with people throwing a fit cause Blizzard's way of telling THEIR story didnt go the way people wanted? Do you throw this much of a fit over every movie, tv show, book,video game, comic, etc if it doesnt go how YOU would have written it?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Most players don't know that though, that's what I'm saying. It was poorly told to the players.

Most people see Bolvar vs Sylvanas and think that Bolvar must = Arthas and Arthas beat Sylvanas so how did this happen? At least from the comments I've been seeing about it.

They told us in game that bolvar wasn’t as strong as arthas in cata If most players are idiots And ignore every thing blizzard has shown/told us both in and out of game that really isn’t blizzards fault.