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    Unhappy So, is Wranduin done?

    Considering the cinematic and the general feelings against wrathion... Is the dream dead?

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    Done ? no clue what you mean, and what considering the cinematic ?

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    It was never a thing in the first place. Shipping is not canon. We already know that Anduin's not interested in Wrathion, because he's got his eyes on female draenei and dwarves.

    Which is weird, because female dwarves are fucking ugly, but to each their own.
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    wait there is female dwarves? I thought there was 2 males for dwarves, like 2 female options for blood elves.

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    No, now the weirdos who pushed that crap will revamp their fiction to include BDSM due to the punch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    They never were a thing. The fact that two teenagers can't be friends for a bit without the internet sexualising them with literally 0 basis on that speculation is so fucking weird
    It's the same mentality that Sam and Frodo are gay just because they love one another. Some people can't believe two people of the same gender can't have a platonic relationship and be willing to die for one another in the name of friendship. It all has to be sexualized.

    I mean, not that Anduin and Wrathion were even ever as close friends as Sam and Frodo for example, or a better example would have been Varian and Bolvar. Especially now. Maybe they'll become friends again, but it'll take some mending and forgiving from both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    They never were a thing. The fact that two teenagers can't be friends for a bit without the internet sexualising them with literally 0 basis on that speculation is so fucking weird
    This. So much this.

    Ship whoever you want, that's fine, but just...don't sperg out over it on the internet like it should be a thing, or worse, actually is a thing...when it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    They never were a thing. The fact that two teenagers can't be friends for a bit without the internet sexualising them with literally 0 basis on that speculation is so fucking weird
    W can agree to disagree, there was quite a bit of queerbaiting in those MoP scenes.

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    Not claiming that it was ever a thing, but the punch was the result of N'Zoth's corruption. So it wouldn't put anything to rest anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyndion View Post
    W can agree to disagree, there was quite a bit of queerbaiting in those MoP scenes.
    Or people are just reading too much into something that was never there to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyndion View Post
    Considering the cinematic and the general feelings against wrathion... Is the dream dead?
    It was never a thing, it was never a dream. It was just idiots who wanted a valid excuse to call Anduin gay

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    I don't know about "queerbaiting," but I never read anything from Wrathion and Anduin aside from a pretty wary and ultimately one-sided friendship. They never appeared to have any kind of sexual fission or even brief romantic moments - usually they were kind of adversarial and at odds with one another, although Anduin seemed to be trying his best to understand and empathize with Wrathion who did not make such things easy by being both shifty and casually arrogant.

    If anything killed the "dream," as it were, it would be Wrathion's betrayal of Anduin and Azeroth in "War Crimes" and the subsequent fallout from his errors in judgment. Anduin's punch to Wrathion's smarmy face in 8.3 is pretty much the tombstone on the corpse of whatever friendship they might've had (platonic or romantic).
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    “When I am a little older,” Wrathion announced, “I shall, if asked politely, take you on my back and ferry you to fascinating places, where we will have adventures that will age your father ten years in one night.”
    “You have no idea how wonderful that sounds,” Anduin said morosely.

    -war crimes

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    I might be a bit of a fujoshit myself but you people need to stop shipping, its weird.

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    They could just be really close friends and have a 'Bromance' . After all, I did have a female friend who I really liked in school and I'm Straight.

    And yeah, I will agree that shipping them is pretty weird
    I don't play WoW anymore smh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyndion View Post
    “When I am a little older,” Wrathion announced, “I shall, if asked politely, take you on my back and ferry you to fascinating places, where we will have adventures that will age your father ten years in one night.”
    “You have no idea how wonderful that sounds,” Anduin said morosely.

    -war crimes
    I read that as a powerful being capable of flight offering an over-protected young boy all the adventure they could ever ask for. I suppose you could read it in a sexual light, if that were your fancy, but given the context of the characters I don't think it's meant to be sexual. Anduin wanted to be out of the shadow of his overbearing father, and Wrathion was kindly offering a means to achieve that.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyndion View Post
    “When I am a little older,” Wrathion announced, “I shall, if asked politely, take you on my back and ferry you to fascinating places, where we will have adventures that will age your father ten years in one night.”
    “You have no idea how wonderful that sounds,” Anduin said morosely.

    -war crimes
    And this is supposed to be an example of what, Exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    I read that as a powerful being capable of flight offering an over-protected young boy all the adventure they could ever ask for. I suppose you could read it in a sexual light, if that were your fancy, but given the context of the characters I don't think it's meant to be sexual. Anduin wanted to be out of the shadow of his overbearing father, and Wrathion was kindly offering a means to achieve that.
    I agree with your sentiment. Just saying it really rides the line of queerbaiting. Aladdin did the same thing with Jasmine with regard of freeing the overly guarded princess to see a whole new world.

    I was asked to provide an example, so I did.

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    "all gentle boys are automatically gay"
    this stereotype why them ships

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyndion View Post
    I agree with your sentiment. Just saying it really rides the line of queerbaiting. Aladdin did the same thing with Jasmine with regard of freeing the overly guarded princess to see a whole new world.

    I was asked to provide an example, so I did.
    Personally speaking, I would be fine if Wrathion and Anduin were positioned to be come a romantic couple - given their shared histories and personalities it would make sense. That being said, I don't think it was ever really painted that way, and doing so requires making a few too many inferences and stretches of credulity in my estimation. Most of their interaction in MoP and "War Crimes" is really them to getting to know one another as people. They didn't really know one another long enough or well enough to form a strong platonic friendship, much less a romantic one.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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