Here you go
For those that don't want to read, subs are down 64% since the Classic influx of players.
Well most of the difficulty in Classic was artificial:
- Bugs and Unstable servers did their part
- Long-winded attunement quests
- Many fights requiring resistance gear, while you still needed necessary hit rate
- Needing 40 players to raid
- New game - basically these days everyone has "figured the game out", but back then there was a big leap to raiding (and there wasn't really content back then that taught people to adjust to "Mechanics"
Your post was fine until you made yourself look like an idiot with this part. Since you are so clueless I'm not sure if its worth explaining but..
...the stock of act-blizz has fallen at the ~same ratio at stock markets in general. Also, I can assure you that investors did not even expect Classic to have millions of subscribes for several months. And even if vanilla had 1mil subs for a year, that would be 2 % of act-blizzards revenue (2018).
Don't post shit if you have no idea how stockmarkets work. I agree though that Classic numbers are low, but its too small franchise from investors point of view to make a difference and do its weak proof.
Last edited by facefist; 2020-03-11 at 01:50 PM.
How can Classic numbers be low (and be a small franchise) when it more than doubled BfA subs in January...and at some point in time tripled them (if Super Data is correct)
Are you telling me BfA had 100k subs like @Poopsnacker is suggesting ?
Last edited by Big Thanks; 2020-03-11 at 01:52 PM.
Lets say BfA had 1 million subs (the lowest realistic number we can find, the lowest of the lowest)
We know in January first it had more than double the BfA subs (2 million and plus some change)
You are suggesting from January 1st to March 10 it lost more than 80% of its entire playerbase.
Doesnt seem realistic at all.
Last edited by Big Thanks; 2020-03-11 at 02:33 PM.
Incorrect
Blizzard specified it doubled the "active player community" ("players with monthly or longer-term subscriptions")
Check it yourself:
https://investor.activision.com/stat...3-7f5aec4ea3ea
Go search for the little (3)
Too small in the sense to make a significant difference to Activison-Blizzards revenue.
Also, newest report from Super Data says that Blizzard Lost majority of the subs they picked up with Classic. There is absolutely zero proof that that Classic has doubled the subs of BFA so its all speculation (except around the launch the rise on subs is easy to see}
Last edited by facefist; 2020-03-11 at 02:54 PM.
You guys...
In the newest Quarter report Blizzard said:
-World of Warcraft® exited 2019 with an active player community more than twice the size of its Q2-ending level
Do you want me to print screen it and show you in image form or something?
And it seems people here are now quoting super data.
Let me clarify super data:
AUGUST (super data)
"Subscription revenue jumped 223% in August when compared to July" (this means classic MORE THAN TRIPLED wow subs)
FEBRUARY (super data)
"subs are down substantially (64%) from August 2019"
BUT
-64% is still more than DOUBLE the subs Blizzard had before Classic...
- - - Updated - - -
Here we go...yeah man, it wasnt classic....it was magic.
So basically you base your whole proof on the theory of it being only from classic? with no proof for it?
Eh? But for argument sake, let’s say wow has 100 subs in July(easy number to work with), then Classic came out. So that is 100 + 223% = 323 new subs. That’s a lot of new subs!
But they have lost 64% of their subs now. So that is 323 - 64% is 116.28. Thats not double anymore, that’s not even a quarter over their original 100.
There is only one absolute truth and thats what Blizzard said. The double part in january 1st.
Unless we think Blizzards is criminal and is lying.
Those are the numbers we have (and the only numbers we will have for future reference, i bet)
The Super Data?
I tried to combine the 2...and according to you they dont add up.
So we have a problem.
Either Blizzard or Super Data is lying...or we are just bad at math.
+223% and then -64% is LESS than double not MORE than double. Thanks for digging up the numbers to prove yourself wrong (and moron) though. I dont think you quite understand how math works lol
Also, wow subs vary a lot depending on content patches etc. Not like its constant year around and the only changing factor is Classic subs. Its obvious that we can factor the initial +223% to be caused by vanilla, but thinking the only factor affecting subs atm is vanilla is just.. Dumb. With your logic most Classic players would be gone, if the whole -64% was allocated to Classic.
Last edited by facefist; 2020-03-11 at 04:37 PM.
Oh dear god, the hypocrisy is absolutely astounding. Honestly, can you not see how absolutely insane your logic is? You say anyone who cant clear heroic in retail is absolutely terrible, but say that guilds cant clear BWL because its hard. This, lady and gentleman, is the hypocrisy of the classic fanbase in all its glory for everyone to see.
this is what you said on the same page : "Then how do you explain the fact that there are guilds wiping in BWL, today, 15 years after the raid has been released, with mechanics that we have seen on more than 20 bosses across expansions? "
Last edited by arkanon; 2020-03-11 at 08:25 PM.