That is why back in earlier 2010s where everyone and their mothers here and elsewhere were in a full fantasy mode of "immigrants welcome", I was literally shaking my head at this madness and was like "what the fuck are you doing to yourselves?"
EU has literally invited this crap on itself and now when reality bitch-slaps it hard and right parties rise everywhere like mushrooms after the rain, they'd probably wish they would have chilled on their illegals hugging policies just half a decade ago.
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Reminds me of what I seen once - "If you didn't vote left when you were young - you have no heart, if you don't vote right when you're older - you have no brain."
So what's happening over the Europe now is the transition phase.
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Probably this:
https://twitter.com/suleymansoylu/st...56991771226118
My guess is the Turks are exaggerating, but it's been a few days now since that tweet so hey, maybe 100k is more reasonable now.
Here's hoping the Greeks stand firm in all this. Fake refugees* can go somewhere else, like back home.
*Yes, fake refugees. If you're fleeing war, you're not a refugee:
A refugee, according to the Convention, is someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion.
-1951 Convention (https://www.unhcr.org/3b66c2aa10.html), page 3.
Still not tired of winning.
I'm glad the U.S. isn't in the middle of this. The best thing Trump ever did was to get us out of that hell hole.
"Never get on the bad side of small minded people who have a little power." - Evelyn (Gifted)
I gave you the answer you need. Go there, check yourself. Sooner or later Europe will have to deal with it but it might be too late for them. Small countries with a constant flux of imigrants that loathe the culture of the people of the country they are getting in is a serious recipe for disaster.
English is not my main language so grammar errors might happen.
You did not give ANY answer. You basically went full Fox News bullshit level. You were called out on it too. I dont have to go anywhere, you, as the one trying to prove a point, have to actually provide the proof.
So prove that France is becoming islamic. No, "brown people" on the streets is not a proof.
I'll let the videos speak for themselves about what is actually going on.
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And for folks who haven't delved into the pile of pigshit that is Turkish ultra-nationalism/Turanism, here's some reading on the Grey Wolves, of which it seems the police officer is wearing a badge for in that video.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_W...(organization)
And after looking at that batch of crazy, here's a picture of Erdogan throwing up the Grey Wolves salute in 2018:
If you are that inclined to follow UNHCR, then I fear 2011 has rather concerning news for you:
https://www.unhcr.org/46f7c0ee2.pdf page 19.UNHCR’s definition of a refugee under its mandate UNHCR’s mandate to protect refugees also extends to persons who are affected by the indiscriminate effects of armed conflict or other events which have seriously disrupted public order.
- In addition to individuals who meet the criteria in the 1951 Convention definition, UNHCR recognizes as refugees persons who are outside their country of nationality or habitual residence and unable to return there owing to serious and indiscriminate threats to life, physical integrity or freedom resulting from generalized violence or events seriously disturbing public order.
Formerly Howeller, lost my account.
If you read it closely though, it doesn't redefine "refugee", it says that the UNHCR, as an organisation in its own right, has a mandate to help people not defined as refugees as if they were refugees, provided they meet certain other criteria. However, this expanded mandate does not apply to the signatories of the 1951 Convention, it just applies to the UNHCR. The document you linked spells this out itself in fact, on page 20:
Complimentary forms of protection
UNHCR’s definition of a refugee under its mandate is broader than the one set out in the 1951 Convention. Where States have not agreed to this broader definition of a refugee, and are thus not bound to it, they have often nonetheless given permission for persons fleeing from, for example, generalized conflict, to stay on their territory, albeit with a different status. Whatever the particular name given to the status by a State, UNHCR has referred to this as a “complementary” form of protection, in that it is complementary to the protection granted under the 1951 Convention.
Still not tired of winning.
What the hell is the UNHCR and why do people think it can supercede national law?