1. #24661
    Quote Originally Posted by Timester View Post
    Biden is an anti-science proto-fascist? That's new for me.
    If someone hangs around with white supremacists, and works with them and Republicans to enforce segregation, yeah I'd say that was redolent of fascism.

    I don't know why Democrats keep denying this stuff, you just have google or look at Biden's wikipedia entry. Biden was chosen partly because of this stuff, so as not to alienate white working class voters.

  2. #24662
    Quote Originally Posted by Timester View Post
    Biden actually have a good change with Michigan, with Wayne County still having 48% votes counted.
    from NYT analysis:
    So far, Biden appears to have flipped Antrim County. According to turnout estimates, around 700,000 votes remain in counties won by Hillary Clinton in 2016. Trump 2016 counties have around 260,000 votes left to report. 4m ago

  3. #24663
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    If someone hangs around with white supremacists, and works with them and Republicans to enforce segregation, yeah I'd say that was redolent of fascism.

    I don't know why Democrats keep denying this stuff, you just have google or look at Biden's wikipedia entry. Biden was chosen partly because of this stuff, so as not to alienate white working class voters.
    Then America is more fascist than I thought and than you want.

    Because your anti-Biden antics doesn't mean nothing on it seems a majority pro-fascist country.

  4. #24664
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    If someone hangs around with white supremacists, and works with them and Republicans to enforce segregation, yeah I'd say that was redolent of fascism.

    I don't know why Democrats keep denying this stuff, you just have google or look at Biden's wikipedia entry. Biden was chosen partly because of this stuff, so as not to alienate white working class voters.
    Please, tell us more.

    https://www.splcenter.org/stephen-mi...eitbart-emails

  5. #24665
    Quote Originally Posted by Timester View Post
    Then America is more fascist than I thought and than you want.

    Because your anti-Biden antics doesn't mean nothing on it seems a majority pro-fascist country.
    I'm stating a fact. Biden has a long history of association with white supremacists and has never retracted his segregationist views.

  6. #24666
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    I'm stating a fact. Biden has a long history of association with white supremacists and has never retracted his segregationist views.
    And yet you still have not proven that any other Democratic candidate would have a better chance. Quite the opposite.

  7. #24667
    Quote Originally Posted by Ladey Gags View Post
    Is there any proof to those accusations? Because you can literally go watch Biden sniff visibly uncomfortable children on multiple videos RIGHT NOW. Your whataboutism is showing
    You mean like Trump bragging about being a peeping Tom?

  8. #24668
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    Yes I do think someone who shares 95% of his policy platform with Trump is too close to Trump.

    No, I don't want to hear your cherry-picked anecdotes that you got from CNN or whatever. I've done proper research. Both are Wall St corporatist shills with dodgy racist views. Biden is better on green issues, Trump is less of a warmonger, that's it. Everything else is bullshit from partisan morons.
    Not even fucking close. Biden doesn't share ANYTHING with Trump. And for someone that claims to have done proper research, you sure are wrong a lot. And I don't watch CNN, so you can throw that shit away.

  9. #24669
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    What has that got to do with anything?

    If your point is "Trump is also a racist". Yes, obviously. We were discussing why Biden was losing not why Trump is a prick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    It will be ironic that Trump had a come back victory in 2016.
    Then come back loss in 2020.
    He might end up clenching defeat from the jaws of victory indeed.

    I think the remarkable part here is by how much polls fucked up, it is a very clear razor edge run there far from all these fantasies pollsters pushed.

    IMO, Biden is teensy weensy ahead now. Biden will get Wisconsin and then he needs only one more which is doable as things stand. Trump can't lose anything besides Wisconsin.
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  11. #24671
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    Yes I do think someone who shares 95% of his policy platform with Trump is too close to Trump.

    No, I don't want to hear your cherry-picked anecdotes that you got from CNN or whatever. I've done proper research. Both are Wall St corporatist shills with dodgy racist views. Biden is better on green issues, Trump is less of a warmonger, that's it. Everything else is bullshit from partisan morons.
    Evidence, please.

  12. #24672
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Evidence, please.
    He doesn't have any. And I believe this is Kokolums, alt account.

  13. #24673
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    What has that got to do with anything?

    If your point is "Trump is also a racist". Yes, obviously. We were discussing why Biden was losing not why Trump is a prick.
    I'd say it's largely due to Trumpsters like you pretending to totally not be Trumpsters, and slinging lies.

    Let me know when you can back up your claims about having 95% of the same policies as Trump. Shall I hold my breath?

  14. #24674
    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Not even fucking close. Biden doesn't share ANYTHING with Trump.
    So they are not both grounded in a neo-liberal philosophy with low social welfare spending, opposition to nationalized healthcare, corporate subsidies, reactionary on law and order, opposed to ubi, cannabis...pretty much agreeing with each other on anything substantive other than kyoto and pulling out of Afghanistan (where Trump is actually more left-wing)?

    I think you mean Trump says dumb racist shit in public whereas Biden comes out with flowery inclusive rhetoric. They do, but neither mean it. In other news rain is wet.

  15. #24675
    Michigan tightened
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  16. #24676
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    So they are not both grounded in a neo-liberal philosophy with low social welfare spending, opposition to nationalized healthcare, corporate subsidies, reactionary on law and order, opposed to ubi, cannabis...pretty much agreeing with each other on anything substantive other than kyoto and pulling out of Afghanistan (where Trump is actually more left-wing)?

    I think you mean Trump says dumb racist shit in public whereas Biden comes out with flowery inclusive rhetoric. They do, but neither mean it. In other news rain is wet.
    Where is your evidence?

  17. #24677
    PA mail in ratio is going to be very important. It may be end up very close if the mail ins skew about 70/30 towards dems which isn't unlikely.

  18. #24678
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I'd say it's largely due to Trumpsters like you pretending to totally not be Trumpsters, and slinging lies.

    Let me know when you can back up your claims about having 95% of the same policies as Trump. Shall I hold my breath?
    Yes, yes everyone is a Trumpster or a russian bot who doesn't agree with your philosophy of voting for Biden even though you yourself have said you didn't vote for Biden.

    In other news hibbable wibbles make tribbable gibbles.

  19. #24679
    Whoever voted for Howie Hawkens or Jo Jorgenson in Michigan is an idiot

    The don't vote shame me bro folks
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  20. #24680
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    Yes, yes everyone is a Trumpster or a russian bot who doesn't agree with your philosophy of voting for Biden even though you yourself have said you didn't vote for Biden.

    In other news hibbable wibbles make tribbable gibbles.
    Where is your evidence? You keep making claims on a brand new account, but where is your evidence?

    I'm not sure how you could possibly know who I'm voting for, you just got here a few hours ago.

    Well, thanks for admitting to being a burner account who refuses to post evidence for your bullshit claims. That was easy.

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