I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I say "wikia" as a general term for all wikis. I wasn't saying anything against or for either of the websites. My point was you shouldn't take terms like "defeated" and "dead" as fact when it's usually the fan's interpretation.
Also I don't believe I've ever used "wowwiki" on this website. Not sure what's that about.
Nozdormu ("our" Nozdormu) becoming Murozond ("our" Murozond) in our primary timeline will still happen. The Murozond that we faced in Cataclysm was from the future, and I refer to him as "stranger" Murozond. Whether that future is our prime timeline's future or another alternate timeline is left open. I think it is the Murozond (so in my opinion, making him effectively "our" Murozond) from the future of our prime timeline personally.
Any how, Nozdormu will still become Murozond.
Would be interesting to see if this "time skip" being implied by Ion Hazzikostas happens and when we come back to Azeroth, Murozond and the Infinite Dragonflight have assaulted.
But since WoD has left such a bad taste in the majority of player's collective mouths I doubt Blizzard would want to take a chance on an expansion (or content patch) dealing with time travel themes.
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Time travel is such a tangled web, the paradoxes and loops that come with it are headache-inducing and hardly justify using time travel to begin with, especially when you bring in alternate timelines and universes without proper planning. That Nozdormu must become corrupted and be killed in order to maintain the integrity of the prime timeline, past, present, and future without altering what has happened, and will happen, is a major burden onto itself, both in story-telling and game design. Either we're forced to endure the same encounter and same story, or it never really reaches that point and it's just assumed we will but the story ends before we ever have to.
On the other side, and Blizzard has been known to do this, screw the past, screw established lore, and let's retcon some things. Murozond/Nozdorumu has potential to be a major character, let's use him and break the timeline. The prime timeline branches out into an alternate timeline, and that alternate timeline is now the prime timeline. Why not?
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...f-Ending/page2
Old Anduin and Velen are fighting the void in the future, so that intermezzo with the old gods and their corruption of azeroth is just a prelude to the final showdown?
It does not matter if c'thun, yogg and n'zoth are going to be revived or not, the void is still there corrupting the future by some means, thus Nozdormu's fate is sealed no matter what.
The void incursions on azeroth certainly do not end with the destruction of some old gods, as long as this Anduin comic is not retconned.
Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/
Doesn't have to the exact same Anduin future as in the comic, just the void isn't finished with azeroth is all i want to point out and the old gods destruction do matter little in that regard, the void still has some agents out there, like Xal'atath.
I mean the alternative would be just light be the enemy as pyromancer is suggesting in his many YT videos.
The question is how will blizz sell this? A whole expansion of some evil light doers? I don't think that will work.
Some little content might work like the AU Draenor episode where light is dominating the planet and some scarlet crusade stuff.
Perhaps it is possible that the Murozond we defeated wasn't even the real Murozond. Maybe he pulled an Eobard Thawn/Reverse Flash, and what we thought was real was actually a temporal echo of the real thing. By biding his time for this long, Murozond could be planning something massive. Such a plan could even lead to his own demise, which is a common mistake to make when attempting to avert your bad future. Instead of preventing it, you ensure it comes to pass (example: Horus from Warhammer 40K).
Time in the Warcraft universe might also be immutable. Any attempt we make to change something is made redundant because the flow of time will always correct itself. Nozdormu's fall to madness may be, as Doctor Who would say, a fixed point in history. Attempts to change it will be corrected, or might fail entirely.
I myself had a concept where Murozond goes back in time to when Lei Shen was alive, and helps him conquer the entire world. With his help, Lei Shen would master the Fist of Ra-den, kill Azshara, and build a new palace over the Well of Eternity, among other things. Like Kairoz though, Murozond would get arrogant, fail to see that Lei Shen has an untempered ambition, and get himself enslaved and/or killed.
But who knows what will happen.
You're quoting a source that is effectively saying they're as dead as anything can be in World of Warcraft, and the caveat they give applies to every character that has ever died, and then acting like this is proof that they are alive. The Old Gods are not some super special, immortal beings that can never die because peoples headcannon is too strong, they're more big squishy tumors that, as strange as it sounds, can be killed but shouldn't be ripped out of the planet like a turnip (Aman'thul is too wise).
Sylvanas didn't even win the popular vote, she was elected by an indirect election of representatives. #NotMyWarchief