Josh removed from Method, Sascha accused of harassment

[ClassicPeon]

Yes. Because no means no. Repeated attempts after being rejected is harrassment by definition.

I agree with this part. What i've seen so far would probably be classified as harrassment

[arandomuser]

ah another one of those "mainstream culture hates GaMeRZ moments"
just like the star wars movie https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/10/...fandamentalism
russians playing on US culture like a fiddle

[Monster Hunter]

Josh was a clear psychopath during his streams. And everyone was just "lol just a character xDDDDDDD" when in reality, he was 10 times worse than he was during his streams. Disgusting.

Sascha abused his position of power and made an employee uncomfortable, an employee who trusted him. Annie explained it so well last night during her stream, apparently hugging is now a signal for "fuck me" ? Guess both Annie and I missed that part. I hope my Grandma doesn't get any ideas now, I hugged her yesterday.

why would you hug an employee ? or a co-worker..... like wtf is wrong with you people, no wonder your getting sacked and disciplined Jesus.

boss, employee;s and co-workers aren't your family and they aren't your friend, work is work not a bloody social club gathering. theres a big difference between being friendly to get on with the job and being friends.

[TyrianFC]

https://www.method.gg/sponsors

Watch this page to see if any of their sponsors mysteriously get removed.

[Kiwijello]

They knew. They didn't care because he helped them get what they wanted. Happens every day in every place in the world.

[kamuimac]

so ... they talked , nothing happend and she somehow managed to #metoo him

i guess we live in brave new world of 2020 -_-

[Azerate]

This so getting out of hand....

*You* did something which may or may not be true. *Everyone else: Destroy all he / she has ever build without anything backing it up*

There's a mountain of evidence on Josh though. Sounds like you're just posting directly out of your ass without any idea about anything

[Rune B]

The most disgusting part about all this is that there are still people who defend those assholes

No, the most disgusting part is that we have a generation of people now who don't understand why we have things like due process, and who think subjective feelings are more important than objectivity, and that people are guilty until proven innocent.

I will literally defend *anyone* who has not been proven guilty. Merely on principle.

[Delever]

Yes. Because no means no. Repeated attempts after being rejected is harrassment by definition.

But he was pretty polite in the way he talked. How can this be a serious accusation? Or power abuse? If you re the CEO of a company does that mean you can never flirt again unless a potential partner literally comes asking you to take them because of potential "power abuse" claims?? Hes a human being.

[Daymanmb]

so ... they talked , nothing happend and she somehow managed to #metoo him

i guess we live in brave new world of 2020 -_-

Soliciting child porn = nothing happened?

[ClassicPeon]

They knew. They didn't care because he helped them get what they wanted. Happens every day in every place in the world.

Or may be they where waiting for proof? idk. The accusations here doesnt seem like something that should be handled within a corporation. IT should be handled in the court of law

[Daymanmb]

No, the most disgusting part is that we have a generation of people now who don't understand why we have things like due process, and who think subjective feelings are more important than objectivity, and that people are guilty until proven innocent.

I will literally defend *anyone* who has not been proven guilty. Merely on principle.

Youre still talking about things you dont understand? Due process doesnt apply to losing your job.

[Lei]

If you click on the little arrows next to a quote you can see the original post. In the post Felplague responded to, you can see another post, with one of Felplague's posts. In that post you see this link:
https://imgur.com/a/lqnCXTm
Literally in the first picture in that link, you see someone saying they're 13

I saw this. So a 13 year old girl is allowed to go on discord, having that profile picture, and a 13 yo is talking like that. I call this particular discord montage BS. And then what's the evidence in this particular montage? Do we know that marzi is a girl and 13? This is not me defending josh, because that dude is annoying as fuck, but this discord image...

Discord should make rooms 18+ only tbh. Minimum 16+.

[ClassicPeon]

No, the most disgusting part is that we have a generation of people now who don't understand why we have things like due process, and who think subjective feelings are more important than objectivity, and that people are guilty until proven innocent.

I will literally defend *anyone* who has not been proven guilty. Merely on principle.

THIS so much fucking this.

It seems like we have a whole generation who refuses to learn from history.

[Daymanmb]

Or may be they where waiting for proof? idk. The accusations here doesnt seem like something that should be handled within a corporation. IT should be handled in the court of law

Did the corporation put him in jail? You know corporations and the courts serve different functions, right?

[ClassicPeon]

Soliciting child porn = nothing happened?

How many times do people need to ask for proof of this?

Where did he do that?

[Azerate]

No, the most disgusting part is that we have a generation of people now who don't understand why we have things like due process, and who think subjective feelings are more important than objectivity, and that people are guilty until proven innocent.

I will literally defend *anyone* who has not been proven guilty. Merely on principle.

No, we have a generation of people who finally started believing the victims instead of making excuses for the predator, though sadly, especially in gaming circles a lot of people are still guilty of the latter.

[Sinfelle]

Josh was a clear psychopath during his streams. And everyone was just "lol just a character xDDDDDDD" when in reality, he was 10 times worse than he was during his streams. Disgusting.

Sascha abused his position of power and made an employee uncomfortable, an employee who trusted him. Annie explained it so well last night during her stream, apparently hugging is now a signal for "fuck me" ? Guess both Annie and I missed that part. I hope my Grandma doesn't get any ideas now, I hugged her yesterday.

Not illegal to date employees. Most companies deem it as unethical, but it is not illegal.

I still fail to see the part where he abused any power, harassed her, used coercion, or threatened her.

The closest he gets is the "i don't like to be turned down, but we're good"......it's fucking stupid and cringe, but it's not threatening or abusive.

Just a bunch of white knights trying to band wagon for someone who doesn't need saving.

Look at the facts, and stop trying to spin shit that isn't there.

[Daymanmb]

THIS so much fucking this.

It seems like we have a whole generation who refuses to learn from history.

Neither innocence til proven guilt, nor due process apply in the work force. Those are legal definitions preventing one from being falsely imprisoned by the government.

[ClassicPeon]

Did the corporation put him in jail? You know corporations and the courts serve different functions, right?

The interesting part of this thread isnt if it was ok he was fired, thats fine. He was creepy no matter what.
The interesting part is weather or not he did something illegal.