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    EVO 2020 cancelled, and not because of COVID.

    No, it got cancelled because of something MUCH worse.

    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ev.../1100-6479302/

    EVO 2020, which was to be an online tournament in 2020, has been cancelled. Earlier, it was reported that EVO CEO Joey Cuellar was being placed on administrative leave following several accusations of sexual misconduct. Now, the event will no longer go ahead, and Cuellar will no longer be involved with EVO.

    In a statement released to Twitter, it has been announced that Tony Cannon is taking over as CEO, and that he is "prioritizing greater accountability across Evo, both internally and at our events."
    This is around the same time a bunch of Smash players were accused of sexual misconduct, so this seems to be a major problem in the fighting game community. How can we fix this problem?

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    There is already a thread on this shit, and Evo WAS cancelled due to Covid. "Evo Online" was cancelled due to the recent events.

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    Another EVO, another shit show. Who would have thought? Although this time it's a little bit more serious than making David Hayter's shit list.

    I get the feeling that this might be one controversy too far given the nature of the allegations. I'm hoping it hasn't damaged the reputation of EVO to the point it's canceled permenantly.

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    Much worse?
    I don't remember simple sexual misconduct killing anyone.

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    He’s an molester, a child molester������
    From another post I saw about it says he was Involved with grooming children, not sure how true that was thou

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedsaint View Post
    He’s an molester, a child molester������
    From another post I saw about it says he was Involved with grooming children, not sure how true that was thou
    Do you hear the voices too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberryZebra View Post
    Another EVO, another shit show. Who would have thought? Although this time it's a little bit more serious than making David Hayter's shit list.

    I get the feeling that this might be one controversy too far given the nature of the allegations. I'm hoping it hasn't damaged the reputation of EVO to the point it's canceled permenantly.
    In a best case scenario Bamco, Capcom, ASW, NRS and SNK would all come together and hold their own yearly event on par with Evo. They already all worked together to help sponsor and promote Evo so it really shouldn't be that hard for them to pull this off for a single event(not like a full tour or anything). Not gonna throw Nintendo in there because they never threw real money at events like this and probably never will, but I'm ok with Smash getting the fuck out of fgc events. Totally different crowds that don't overlap much at all.

    I'm also ok with Combo Breaker becoming the premier FGC open event in the world as well, because it will without Evo and it is already the best ran tournament.

    I have a hard time believing Evo can recover from this, Mr Wiz WAS evo. His brand, and he was a monster.
    Last edited by Tech614; 2020-07-03 at 09:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    I have a hard time believing Evo can recover from this, Mr Wiz WAS evo. His brand, and he was a monster.
    I think you're right. Tony Cannon does still have credability in the FGC, but the reputation of EVO is just too tarnished to be salvaged at this point I feel.

    As for what might replace it... Who knows? I'd like the bigger game publishers to back a joint official event on the same scale as EVO, but I can't see that happening. Large FGC events have typically been grassroots and driven by the players and fans, not the publishers. A global tournament like this run by a gaming publisher is going to look very different to EVO. Realistically, I expect most publishers are going to manage their scenes more directly and move them in house exclusively.

    Given what's happened with the Smash community too I can see potential sponsors wanting to avoid the FGC all together. Yet again EVO has managed to paint all of us in the worst possible light. That doesn't bode well for the FGC going forwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberryZebra View Post
    I think you're right. Tony Cannon does still have credability in the FGC, but the reputation of EVO is just too tarnished to be salvaged at this point I feel.

    As for what might replace it... Who knows? I'd like the bigger game publishers to back a joint official event on the same scale as EVO, but I can't see that happening. Large FGC events have typically been grassroots and driven by the players and fans, not the publishers. A global tournament like this run by a gaming publisher is going to look very different to EVO. Realistically, I expect most publishers are going to manage their scenes more directly and move them in house exclusively.

    Given what's happened with the Smash community too I can see potential sponsors wanting to avoid the FGC all together. Yet again EVO has managed to paint all of us in the worst possible light. That doesn't bode well for the FGC going forwards.
    That's why if nothing else I'm happy with Combo Breaker becoming THE fgc tournament because it is pure grass roots and won't change. The amount of games they showcase from niche shit no one knows about the big boys already made it my favorite event and unlike Evo they don't need corporate sponsors to maintain themselves and don't change anything based on them. Combo Breaker doesn't want to be evo nor will it ever be evo but maybe that is a good thing.

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    >sexual assault allegations are worse than the deaths of half a million people
    Are you having a laugh mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bannbar View Post
    >sexual assault allegations are worse than the deaths of half a million people
    Are you having a laugh mate?
    Title is clickbait because it was already cancelled because of Covid-19. https://www.gameinformer.com/2020/05...-digital-event

    There was going to be some shitty online event that was gonna be a shit show without a doubt cause fighting game netcode still has miles to go and very few people care that was cancelled because MrWiz is a monster.

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    If we learned anything from this, its that Skullgirls is cursed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VGAddict View Post
    No, it got cancelled because of something MUCH worse.

    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ev.../1100-6479302/



    This is around the same time a bunch of Smash players were accused of sexual misconduct, so this seems to be a major problem in the fighting game community. How can we fix this problem?
    I don't think anecdotal instances of sexual misconduct is much worse than half a million deaths.

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    Some of these "sexual misconduct" (and by some I mean many) turn out to be girls writing articles about guys who tried and failed to hit on them.. Back in the day this was about guys forcing themselves on women, repeated groping and outright rape and now it's about percieved microaggressions and slightly annoying unwanted attention.

    And this is worse than a global pandemic killing thousands of people? Ok.
    Probably running on a Pentium 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    Some of these "sexual misconduct" (and by some I mean many) turn out to be girls writing articles about guys who tried and failed to hit on them.. Back in the day this was about guys forcing themselves on women, repeated groping and outright rape and now it's about percieved microaggressions and slightly annoying unwanted attention.

    And this is worse than a global pandemic killing thousands of people? Ok.
    Let's not derail this with whataboutism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Let's not derail this with whataboutism.
    You mean "whatabout" the actual reason it was cancelled? Or "whatabout" the very first line of the OP which is exactly what I was addressing?
    Probably running on a Pentium 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    You mean "whatabout" the actual reason it was cancelled? Or "whatabout" the very first line of the OP which is exactly what I was addressing?
    The part where you're handwaving this particular sexual misconduct issue because of other instances of faulty allegations that are wholly unrelated to this particular case. Yes, there are girls who write articles about failing to hit on guys etc, but that has very little to do with this actual case which isn't what you're describing. Perhaps you should, you know, actually read the article first before flapping your yap about microaggressions.

    Let's just focus on this for what it is, and not make this about *whatabout the girls who are writing faulty sexual misconduct articles *.
    Last edited by Triceron; 2020-07-04 at 07:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    Some of these "sexual misconduct" (and by some I mean many) turn out to be girls writing articles about guys who tried and failed to hit on them.. Back in the day this was about guys forcing themselves on women, repeated groping and outright rape and now it's about percieved microaggressions and slightly annoying unwanted attention.

    And this is worse than a global pandemic killing thousands of people? Ok.
    Uhh, it's actually a grown man that invited underage boys over to his house and exchanged favors for dick pics with receipts to prove it. Nothing to do with "girls" but nice try. In situations like this it's probably better to say nothing then what you did, even if that is your honest opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    The part where you're handwaving this particular sexual misconduct issue because of other instances that are wholly unrelated to this particular case. Yes, there are girls who write articles about failing to hit on guys etc, but that has very little to do with this actual case which isn't what you're describing.

    Let's not pretend two wrongs somehow make a right. Let's just focus on this for what it is, and not *whatabout the girls who are writing faulty sexual misconduct articles *.
    Lets get this straight then

    Evo 2020 was cancelled due to COVID19. Evo 2020 online was cancelled because of something the CEO did 20+ years ago. Is something that happened in the 90s indication of a problem in the FGC now? Because I've been following the FGC for years, and this is the first I've heard of such a thing. Either way, one man being a pedo in 1995 is not worse than hundreds of thousands of people dying to a worldwide pandemic, and that is what the OP appears to suggest.
    Probably running on a Pentium 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    Lets get this straight then

    Evo 2020 was cancelled due to COVID19. Evo 2020 online was cancelled because of something the CEO did 20+ years ago. Is something that happened in the 90s indication of a problem in the FGC now? Because I've been following the FGC for years, and this is the first I've heard of such a thing. Either way, one man being a pedo in 1995 is not worse than hundreds of thousands of people dying to a worldwide pandemic, and that is what the OP appears to suggest.
    There is literally DMs from him still doing the same shit 5 and 7 years ago. Also I pointed out the title was clickbait in post number 2, but there is no need to use it as a defense for this. Kind of weird defense you're putting up my dude.

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