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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usernameforforums View Post
    Give an engineer a ogre slave, suddenly goblin alchemist. Give an engineer a mech, suddenly tinker.
    They would also need the Tinker/Alchemist abilities, which Blizzard would never do, so this argument is nonsense.

    There are no other classes with that has any influence towards professions and vice-versa. This problem is unique to tinker.
    Except Monks who generate brews and elixirs, and can actually trade one of them with other players. There's also Mages who can conjure food and give it to other players.

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    I really don't care because I always love the new classes Tinkerer or otherwise, but I would prefer a new spec for each class (Aside from Druid who would get some other unique stuff for them to set them even more apart from the others.), the lore exists within each class already and it isn't that much of a balance issue as people would have you believe.
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  3. #103
    I'm just tired of hearing about them and I really do just dislike the name. I don't hate the idea of them being added.

  4. #104
    I have nothing against a Tinkerer class... I just have no interest in that kind of fantasy and would prefer most anything else. A Necromancer class also feels like a missed opportunity with Shadowlands and I would have preferred that over a Tinkerer. I won't be upset if Tinkerer ever gets added though. I just wouldn't be likely to ever play it.

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    in warcraft 3 I always get pwned hard by Tinker rushes especially by Undead players, in DotA and DotA 2 I always get pwned hard by (may Elune forgive me for uttering this word Tinker mains; I don't want to be reminded of them

    j/k Tinkers are really long overdue, they are the last ones that haven't had any official port to WoW alongside Alchemists, and you could make a support healing spec for Tinker via Alchemist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velerios View Post
    Because there are around 20 classes that makes more sense and I (and probably others) would rather see implemented than tinker. Necromancer, Spellsword, Dark Ranger, Spellbreaker...; there are far more classes that are better than tinkerer: we have engineering for it, and i rather have an extension to it than a class around it. If they want, they could make Tinkerer an earnable spec from engineering, but it's own class? Nah.
    Necromancer = Unholy Death Knight (Army of the Dead)
    Dark Ranger = Marksman Hunter (Black Arrow)
    Spellbreaker and Warden = Demon Hunters... which incidentally can only be Night Elves and Blood Elves. (Imprison, Consume Magic, Blur)
    Not sure what a Spellsword is in Warcraft... I would have guessed they would be Spellbreakers.
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    No fucking way. The worst idea since democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    I'm just tired of hearing about them and I really do just dislike the name. I don't hate the idea of them being added.
    To be honest, the class would probably be called Mechanic or Machinist, with Tinker(er) being a name for one of the specs.

    Just like what happened with the Monk class and the Brewmaster.

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    because nobody plays with them, since they are a very childish race, in addition to being hateful and they are very bad at all the transfigurations ... their theme itself is hateful, mechandry was very heavy ... and hateful ...

    I do not think it is necessary in a tinker class that very few will play, there are classes with much more priority such as the dark ranger, warden, huntress / knight, blademaster, gladiator ...

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    Because they have no abilities if not using consumables , what? they conjure bombs out of thin air?

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    Tinkers would be a awesome class, I'm tired of edgy shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valax View Post
    Because they have no abilities if not using consumables , what? they conjure bombs out of thin air?
    Like Hunters with arrows/bullets and Grenades?

    Or Rogues and their throwing knives and crimson vials?

    Or Monks with their Kegs and their brews?

    These arguments are getting ridiculous. At least attempt to be fair and not apply standards that other classes don't have to respect.

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    I gotta say, I don't really think a Tinker is a terrible idea really (being just a Gnome/Goblin thing is what's stupid). Mostly I hate Tinkers and Tinker threads because the usual suspects ALWAYS show up and turn an interesting thread/idea into a shit sandwich.

    Case in point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HateTrain View Post
    I gotta say, I don't really think a Tinker is a terrible idea really (being just a Gnome/Goblin thing is what's stupid). Mostly I hate Tinkers and Tinker threads because the usual suspects ALWAYS show up and turn an interesting thread/idea into a shit sandwich.

    Case in point.
    Yes, because countering BS with facts turns a thread into a "shit sandwich".

    Thanks for the contribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yes, because countering BS with facts turns a thread into a "shit sandwich".

    Thanks for the contribution.
    Yes, "Facts". Not extrapolated opinions and personal interpretations. Also yes. Shit. Sandwich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HateTrain View Post
    Yes, "Facts". Not extrapolated opinions and personal interpretations. Also yes. Shit. Sandwich.
    Other classes using consumables as abilities is a fact.
    Professions not being effected by classes is a fact.
    The previous expansion classes having the same background as a Tinker is a fact.
    Goblins, Gnomes, and Mechagnomes having a heavy technology theme but no applicable technology class is a fact.
    Tinkers having abilities not found in any other classes is a fact.

    Did I miss anything?

  16. #116
    Tinker or Tinkererererererer? You decide.

    Anyway, for the love of God, no more classes. Demon hunters are already profoundly redundant, and does anybody really care about monks at this stage?

  17. #117
    I don't object to Tinkers as a class, I just don't get the obsessions with it. Just sounds like a very marmite class idea to me.

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by rhrrngt View Post
    I really don't understand a community that hates variety so much. A technical based class with steampunk vibes is usually a staple in many fantasy games and its a clear missing component in WoW despite the myriad of technologies the world offers. Yet anytime someone suggests a desire for the class or even comes up with creative ways to implement it half the community it seems nearly has a stroke with the amount of rage they bring.
    I mean in reality it doesn't have to be called tinkerer, but i do think the game would benefit from a class that embodies a mechanical steam punk type vibe.
    Game would be better if dh and monk were deleted and no classes ever added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhrrngt View Post
    I really don't understand a community that hates variety so much. A technical based class with steampunk vibes is usually a staple in many fantasy games and its a clear missing component in WoW despite the myriad of technologies the world offers. Yet anytime someone suggests a desire for the class or even comes up with creative ways to implement it half the community it seems nearly has a stroke with the amount of rage they bring.
    I mean in reality it doesn't have to be called tinkerer, but i do think the game would benefit from a class that embodies a mechanical steam punk type vibe.
    There are two kinds of players:
    1) Players, who think, that class identity > RP
    2) Players, who think, that class identity < RP

    1st ones are boring people, who don't like super cool things, like dual guns!

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by McNeil View Post
    They look at is as to goofy while the game has been that way since the very beginning. They'd rather want more edgy classes as apparently demon hunters didn't bring enough edgyness to the table.
    This. Ever notice how they hate everything that isn't seeping in edge?

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