Originally Posted by
Slant
You're oversimplifying the problem and consequently missing the point. Nobody here is talking about a revolution in an authoritarian regime that violent protest doesn't have its place. What you're glossing over is that Romania had one of the brutal dictatorships. The amount of violence in response to Romania's regime in the end doesn't nearly outweigh the violence that was done to the Romanian people before.
In Germany, however, there was zero violence that wasn't instigated by Nazis themselves. The Capitol attack? In response to zero oppression, zero violence done to Trump supporters. Quite the opposite, the constitution that they were attempting to overthrow was protecting them right up until the very end when they started trespassing.
It seems to me that you still do not understand the point that is being made by many posters here. Both QAnon and the militant blocs of Antifa frequently break the law of countries that are considered free, democratic and just, by an overwhelming majority of their populations and legal science. Both sides have a right to say whatever bullshit comes into their mind (within the framework of the law, incitement is well outside the allowed framework). Both are a danger to society when they start breaking property or even hurt people. Antifa's position is in general just as retarded as the alt-right in that they are a reactionary movement creating the fascist enemy image whenever they don't agree with something, to legitimise their "protests" against what everyone else considers are normal, if boring, democratic institutions and rulesets.
The original "modern" Antifa spawning in Germany out of the student movements of '68 had a legitimate reason to protest against ex-Nazi people still remaining in executive and directorial functions at Universities. That cause has long ago run its course due to age and Nazis mostly being dead by now.
So, do not glorify either side, they are both destructive forces in society. Albeit, as it turns out, Antifa is less destructive in that by and large their damage is limited to property. The alt-right however seems to know no limit. Human lives do not matter to them any more than the actual constitution of what most people would consider the first modern democracy on the planet.
The proper way to deal with extremists is through the law. Creating havoc in the street and causing disturbances makes you part of the problem. LITERALLY you are no better than the forces you protest against. Have a peaceful protest with tens of thousands of participants and no one would complain. Heck, I might even join you. But if you can't attract more than a few hundred because your cause is not relevant anymore, then don't start smashing things up just to get attention. Which is exactly the strategy of the black bloc in Antifa. Heck, even worse... recently I have noticed the trend of what I like to call "chaos tourism" where people join a cause, any cause, just to be violent and hide in the crowd. And both sides are guilty of that. Those ex-military guys in the Capitol run? They don't give a shit about Trump or the cause. They just wanted to be violent, they have issues. They need to be institutionalized.
And let me be very clear. YOU DO NOT HAVE FASCISM IN THE US! It takes a special kind of retard to pretend Antifa even makes sense in the US. Your people have seen the fun we have every Mayday in Europe and they wanted to copy it. Naturally, lacking imagination, they copied everything, including the justification and the cause, without checking if it even makes sense in the US.
You have your own civil liberty movements, you have probably more valid causes than anyone in Europe. We just protest and smash things up out of tradition at this point. DON'T USE WORDS YOU DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF. Literally, Antifa in the US is an oxymoron.