There is a difference, the sheep does what the majority does or blindly follows the guide written by the minmaxer, a minmaxer knows exactly why hes making X choice, how many fire mages that are night fae know actually why fire mage chooses that covenant? only the minmaxers know, the rest are the usual sheeps that copy stuff despite barely doing any content.
alright, you sold me. there is now only 1 spec per class and no covenants
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Why you do something (taken a certain talent, conduit or w/e) is what majority of the people probably arent asking themselfs.
That's a pretty big difference.
The "best in bag" setting on raidbots is a perfect example of people not reaching their full potential with their class if they don't ask the question why is that trinket better or why do most use that conduit, what makes it so good? But most people put in their settings and sim and just "oh computer says this so must be right" type of thing.
What do you mean with if it matters? what matters?
They arent just like you said, they are blindly following what the rest does, do they actually know that X covenant is actually the best performing 1? or they just read it in a guide or saw everyone choosing that covenant? the answer is they actually dont know at all xd and that makes them a sheep rather than an actual minmaxer, but like you said the result is the same in the end, but its not a bad thing to know the difference, the funny part is the actually delusional people that still believe that the wow community isnt plagued by sheeps.
The level of play were that leveling of min maxing matters is reserved for rather progressed mythic raiders and even then only for very specific encounters. I am asking why it matters why they are min maxing.
You can argue that beyond the extreme ends of the difficulty and pvp it really doesn't matter what you pick but that isn't what the community does. They want the most powerful option and pick it consistently. It feels like arguing "well they are not so invested as to know every detail as to why its the best" Isn't a argument that has any use. What does it matter if they know the math behind it if they are only chasing after the results?
For me, when I play an mmo/rpg, one of the main goals I look forward too is feeling stronger and stronger the more time I put into the game.. it would almost seem counterintuitive to pick something that made me measurably weaker...
And I guess the only way to measure that is our ever-present meters.... this is why we min max....this is why we want our characters to progress, who would choose on purpose to be lower on the meters
Dunno. May be it's the same situation, as with talents back in old times? I wasn't picking cookie cutter ones, because they were the best. I just didn't care about them. That's why I was going to fan site to see, which ones I should have picked. Because cookie cutter is still better, than just random ones.
I don't care about Wow 11.0, if it's not solo-MMO. No half-measures - just perfect xpack.
Sorry, but i disagree. My warlock is kyrian for a reason, and thats not the cov theme. What speccs should play venthyr besides rogues ? partying vampires fits where exactly thematically ? and why is my resto-sham a necro ?
From my point of view, my hunter deserves to be a necro. but well - rip dmg then. Covenants are still terrible balanced for group based content, and there are only a few speccs where i would agree that the best performing cov is the best fitting covenant thematically.
as long as the covenants are close in power level thats all that matters. blizz has shown that they do want this to be true.
This guy has already clowned himself in basically every other thread by denying that the data is real. Azeroth flat-earthers exist, apparently.
Valid Data Criticism: Some amount of players won't be registered with this data because they do not meet the criteria (depending on the chart, have never won a single arena game, killed a single raid boss, or done a single m+ dungeon). So the results are definitely not perfect. However, unless there are literally hundreds of millions of secret wow players, it's probably more accurate now than it was even 5 years ago given basic data inferences .
Stupid Data Criticism: Raider.io causes autism
Too bad that OP got banned. He seemed like a reasonable and pleasant fella