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  1. #41
    Most players are using subjective views to determine an objective bias... Which means, it differs from person to person. It's up to you if you think there is a bias or not. Hard for us to know if there actually is one.

    I personally don't think there is bias in any direction except for Anduin...

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  2. #42
    Maybe during Metzen's era. Writers nowadays definitely favor Alliance characters and values.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    The Alliance, ofcourse, get a good storylines, but the Alliance isn't at the center of the WoW story like the Horde are. The Alliance spend 90% of the story reacting to what the Horde characters are doing. The one and only time in World of Warcraft when the Alliance were the main driver of the plot for a bit was when they raided Zandalar.
    Dwarves pillaged the ancestral grounds of Tauren tribes, eradicating a couple of them.
    The entirety of the hostilities in Cataclysm bred out of Varian's declaration of war to the Horde after the events of the battle for Undercity.
    Ashenvale becoming a warfront (not one of the Warfronts but you get my point) was due to politics and the Alliance being unwilling to cooperate with the requests of the Horde, and a warmonger being appointed as Warchief by Thrall.
    Jaina got to lodge troops all throughout the Barrens via Theramore, with the Mana Bomb being the consequence.
    In Legion the Alliance attacks the Warchief fleet, at the time the only sizable force deployed on the homefront, via an air strike.
    Vulperas got Alliance eradication squads sent after them as retortion for joining the Horde.

    And want to know what all of these Alliance initiatives have in common?
    They got justified, mellowed out, softened, because the loud complaints coming from the Alliance was that they did not want to be the bad guys, so the onus of being the aggressor got increasingly put on the Horde up until the current paradox where in order not to have another Warchief going mad and becoming a raid boss it's better if the Horde has none.

    And I'm super sure the overall sentiment about Anduin is indignation because how dare the writers turn Anduin. But I admit I'd be supremely surprised if there's anyone left with a speck of passion for the current plot and overarching lore.

    Does it count as Horde bias if the current Lich King and former Stormwind regent gets his character slaughtered by her own daughter?

  4. #44
    some devs are biased towards the Horde. some are biased to the Alliance. most try not to let their preferences get in the way of their job and the variety in the team should, in theory, keep any bias from slipping in too much
    in communication though some allow their preference to show and/or enjoy trying to stir a 'faction patriotism' amongst the playerbase which is often misinterpreted as being the one true opinion of the whole company

    there have been times when certain things have been skewered (eg: Onyxia attunement in classic was a much bigger chore for Alliance than Horde, but this was to do with lack of communication between the different quest teams working on each factions version rather than a deliberate effect. the idea of having pally and shammy exclusivity was also impossible to balance) but I think it's less of a gameplay issue these days

    storyline can sometimes seem biased but a part of that is the difficulty in including popular characters from both factions at the same time. BFA had a major Jaina arc while the Horde attention was mostly on the newly introduced Zandalari royal family so obviously that felt like the Alliance were getting a much bigger focus

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    Racials say it all.
    Let's look at the test results. You are a horrible person. It says right here, you're a horrible person. We weren't even testing that. Don't let the horrible person thing get you down though. Science justified your parents choice to abandon you.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by SugarPunch View Post
    DPS and utility wise Alliance has the better racials, just so you know
    or why do you think almost all classes in mdi were alliance
    And horde have dominated raiding almost forever. Traditionally horde have the better racials.
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    why so mad bro

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Derpules View Post
    In dalaran Horde have 2 mailboxes by their steps to the alliance single mailbox. It's the only physical bias I've seen... besides dumb AV bridge.
    So then it evens out and there is no bias.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    And horde have dominated raiding almost forever. Traditionally horde have the better racials.
    No, Alliance has the best racial and utility for almost all classes in mechagnome.
    Horde only dominates raiding because in the past more hardcore raiding guilds were majorly horde and people migrated to find better guilds and competition
    This has absolutely nothing to do with racials, which you would know, if you would have done some research

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    I don't think it that way, it's just that the bunch of Horde players are the loud ones either yelling that "For the Horde!" warcry or just bashing Alliance players. I never kinda understood the whole bias thingie, there are morons on both sides. It's just way back in 2005, it was considered "cool" to play as a Horde. Nowadays no one cares.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Swnem View Post
    The 3 base BG maps are now all horde biased. AV has been so modified and is so biased now, It's not even funny. They literally made a new road for horde players not to get lost. WSG downhill+dark area vs uphill and bright area. Trifecta of high ground and easy acess in AB with farm/BS flags being close and LM filling the high ground for easy high ground defense. You can lol see alliance coming to BS all the way from Stables. Surprise attacks are impossible.

    They listened to horde requests for allied race with the vulpera when it was clear that the plan was the nazjatar goblins and alliance requests got ignored.

    Horde racials were OP for many years resulting in the current end-game population unbalance. Alliance ones not allowed to be that OP.

    So, is there a bias? Yes.
    Is it the end of the world? No. But, it can be annoying at times.
    This much of the original bias story and lore bias is also a big factor.

    Its like in classic wow even it was 55% Alliance and 45% Horde before, most likly created due to the bias Alliance for pve and Horde for pvp.
    Now i heard it is 25% Alliance and 75% horde since people are preparing for TBC and Alliance got no advantage for pve or pvp in TBC.

    Blizzard has stated they will keep a close look on Faction balance if this is true or not i have my doubts seeing how Alliance is pretty much dead in retail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavelinJoe View Post
    Horde bias confirmed. Thats absolutely unacceptable.
    When I noticed the Dalaran mailbox disparity it felt like dunking on alliance. "What's that? ONLY one mail box by your bank? AHAHAHAHAHAHAA!" -My blood elf, probably.

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    So then it evens out and there is no bias.
    Thanos and Symmetra appreciate the balance
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  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Bwonsamdi the Dead View Post
    Trolls have had two leaders killed off in the last few expansions. And now one of their most loved Loa is treated like crap in a very Druidic/Elven-inspired Afterlife. And the Darkspear? They... barely exist at this point pretty much.....
    Trolls are basically shit though and have been getting their asses handed to them since the inception of the WC universe. Trolls are the biggest loser-race in wow you can't hold that against the Horde (or can you for letting them in?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpules View Post
    In dalaran Horde have 2 mailboxes by their steps to the alliance single mailbox. It's the only physical bias I've seen... besides dumb AV bridge.
    All glory to the AV bridge. It's been the site of many an glorious hold when all seemed lost and victory for the Alliance.

  14. #54
    Blizzard generally has the Horde be evil stupid winners.
    And the Alliance be moral good stupid losers.
    Depends on what kind of stupid you want to be.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post

    People were just transformed into races from the other faction. That's some proper tinfoil hat to search for biases here.
    Really that is why multiple guilds switched to all trolls and built comps around everyone being a troll except one DH to reduce the dot tick time significantly on Jaina. If that is not a blatant advantage being handed to the horde through stronger racials and game design than I must say you are either blind or ignorant.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by NordWitcher View Post
    So I've been Alliance all my time on WoW and even that kinda just happened by chance. It was cause I couldn't afford the WoW Battlechest back in the day and you had to have TBC to play as the Blood Elves. So I had to settle for the Night Elves cause I really wanted to play as an Elf. However, I've only really seen the game from The Alliance point of view. That was until the allied races and I created a Horde Demon Hunter to level up and unlock the allied races.

    Now a lot of folks often spoke about them preferring the Horde story lines but BFA was just so much better on the Alliance. Drustvar was an amazing questing experience. I loved the zone and Boralus was a beautiful city compared to the Pyramid thing the Horde got. I did some of the old zones like Dragonblight on the Horde and The Alliance was just so much better. The Wrathgate story line for example on the Alliance is definitely a lot better than the Horde side.

    Am just wondering what parts or story lines or quests were better on the Horde compared to the Alliance? And does Blizzard really have a Horde bias?
    I'm not sure, if it was accidental or intentional, but there were several occasions, when there was some Horde bias, as if Blizzard fell into "We have X% more Horde - let's cater to them, instead of trying to fix balance and drive this players away instead". For example Horde chopper is obviously better, than Alliance one. Same with BFA allied races.

  17. #57
    Blizzard has been Horde Bias since vanilla WoW. Just look at the racials for horde and the truth will be staring at you back in the face. But as soon as Alliance got 1 powerful racial (Every man for Himself) Bitches whined and cried so loud that Blizzard changed it. But yet all the powerful racials for horde have remained. So, yes, Blizzard is bias as fuck.
    People on this thread only get pissed at you when you don't agree with them...FACT

  18. #58
    I just want to say the horde having a council now makes absolute sense given events. The horde has effectively been an alliance since WC3, and recent events have shown the dangers of giving supreme authority to a single person that people are supposed to swear blood oaths to.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by WowIsDead64 View Post
    I'm not sure, if it was accidental or intentional, but there were several occasions, when there was some Horde bias, as if Blizzard fell into "We have X% more Horde - let's cater to them, instead of trying to fix balance and drive this players away instead". For example Horde chopper is obviously better, than Alliance one. Same with BFA allied races.
    Regarding the Chopper, I Actually disagree. The Alliance one personally is a lot better.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by SugarPunch View Post
    DPS and utility wise Alliance has the better racials, just so you know
    or why do you think almost all classes in mdi were alliance
    MDI were alliance for the NE skip ability, and MDI as nothing to do with how M+ how run in the game so who care.
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