Does anyone have FTTH?

[dwarven]

Just wondering if anyone here has a fiber cable coming directly into their house. I remember my friend in highschool did, but apparently it's kind of a rare thing. The ISP was a very localized provider that was close to his house. This was back in 2008-9 and I always went over to his house because his connection was so fast compared to the DSL that everyone else had. We were flying. And it never went down. I think the only problem we ever had was when the battery backup for the ONT died one day after several years and the box wouldn't function without a charged one since they also had phone service on the line. I suppose that's more related to the reliability of the ISP and not necessarily fiber, but I'd trade my current provider (Comcast Xfinity) for that one any day, even though I think it was only a ~120mbps connection. I'm pretty sure the bandwidth was also symmetrical, which is also pretty rare these days.

His mom sold their house in 2019, but she still had the same old connection still chugging away. I think the name of the provider was Surewest. It looks like it's called Consolidated Communications now.

[Ealyssa]

I would guess almost every fiber client in Switzerland is on FTTH.
Got the wall plug stalled by my ISP 6 years ago.

[dwarven]

I would guess almost every fiber client in Switzerland is on FTTH.
Got the wall plug stalled by my ISP 6 years ago.

True, forgot to mention I'm in the US. Our network infrastructure is kind of a mess.

[molliewoof]

getting it on tues, only for 250 though as i dont need anything higher (or even that) the reason i got that is because my current is 34 a month tor 100, this is 16 for 250

some mates have the gig connection, it bafles me, i remember downloading at 6k

[Erous]

AT&T Fiber is ftth. The wire runs from the outside to the splitter on the house, then fiber directly to the ONT from that box.

[Lanrefni]

Yup,fiber to the ONT on the side of the house,Cat 6 to the router.

[Biomega]

I used to have it while living in Japan. It's very common there, and it is a thing of beauty to be sure.

In the US now I don't have fiber, but I'm in a lucky spot where I really can't complain much about the internet. It's not quite as good but it's been very reliable nonetheless - which is an exception, I know. Compared to much of Europe and Japan, US internet is really far behind.

[ldev]

I mean... yea, sure? What kind of question is that? Had it for like 12 years.



The only reason it's 400 mbps plan and not a gigabit, it's because that would cost 5 eur/month more, and it's a waste of money - big downloads are games and PSN and xBox Live can't even reach 200 mbps.

[Unlimited Power]

I had the option of a more expensive 500/500 fiber connection when I moved in but opted for a cheaper 1000/100 broadband through coaxial cable since I don't really need the 500 upload anyway.

[whywhatwhowhenhow]

FTTP, Fibre to the premises. I wouldn't use anything else. Do people still use the old copper phone lines? >.<

[Shakadam]

Yeah it's very common for detached and semi-detached houses here. Older people living in old houses may not have it installed but unless you live far in the wilderness somewhere it's almost always an available option.

Apartment buildings obviously have it as well, usually via a switch somewhere in the building passing on an ethernet connection to the individual apartments.

[dwarven]

FTTP, Fibre to the premises. I wouldn't use anything else. Do people still use the old copper phone lines? >.<

The neighborhood I live in, the only options really are AT&T DSL (which is a dismal 25mb) and Comcast via good old RG-6. I'm sure they have a fiber node in the neighborhood somewhere, but I doubt it's anywhere close to our house. We still get gigabit with Comcast, but it's 1000/50 and has a datacap. It's really kind of infuriating actually since I use upload a lot for transferring RAW photo files to cloud services, sometimes using up to 10GB or more a day on that alone. And it goes down at least once every two weeks with no warning. Comcast is easily the worst ISP I've ever had, but they are the only option if you want good speed. But we're planning on moving to LA next year, so I'm hoping they have some better options. If not I'll most likely look into Starlink when it comes online later this year. Even thought it will undoubtedly be slower, if it has better up time and no data caps I'll dump Comcast in a heartbeat.

[Coolthulhu]

FTTH has been the standard for more than I can remember here. I struggle to fathom how people still manage to survive on anything less than 500 down and at least 100 up as a bare minimum (sure, the up might not matter as much to a lot of people, but I don't think I'd be able to find an ISP offering anything less than that). Even more baffling are some prices (34 a month for 100, what the hell?) and data caps on fixed lines (seriously?).

[C20]

Until a few years ago, the house we lived in was still served by copper... except it wasn't even copper, it was alu., so stability was absolute dogshit. The nearest cabinet was about 250m away, but the serving station for it was over a mile away. The speeds we managed were about 8mb/s maximum, and even then it'd still drop out frequently.

Not long before we moved out, they finally laid down fibre, but as I understand it, there's plenty of areas in the UK which are STILL served by the old copper/alu. infrastructure. We use FTTC at out current property (F to the cabinet, coax to the home, running over DOCSIS).

Right now, I'm waiting on a gig plan to roll out to our area. It's supposedly gonna happen by the end of 2021. I could upgrade from 350/35 to 635/41, but I don't wanna find myself unable to upgrade to the gig plan because I'm locked into a new contract.

FTTH has been the standard for more than I can remember here. I struggle to fathom how people still manage to survive on anything less than 500 down and at least 100 up as a bare minimum (sure, the up might not matter as much to a lot of people, but I don't think I'd be able to find an ISP offering anything less than that). Even more baffling are some prices (34 a month for 100, what the hell?) and data caps on fixed lines (seriously?).

So much of the pricing is to do with how competitive the market is. For example, in the UK, there is only 1 widespread fibre provider (Virgin Media). Some cities have other options, but because those networks only account for around 3-4% (at best) of the number of premises as Virgin, there's no real incentive for competitive pricing from Virgin. We pay around £60 a month for 350/35. We don't have options that offer significantly higher upload speeds, and it's always frustrated me that the speeds aren't synchronous on both up and down.

We used to have a 50GB data cap until ~2012. Even with megaslow 2mb/s speeds, I still managed to exceed that cap once due to a WoW PTR which required 2 fresh PTR installs due to Blizzard deciding to change things mid-PTR. I couldn't raid for a while because my connection would flake out because I'd exceeded the cap and was being limited to 56K speeds.

[Daedius]

I would guess almost every fiber client in Switzerland is on FTTH.
Got the wall plug stalled by my ISP 6 years ago.

I am insanely jealous...

I got to make do with wireless, initially was up to 250~mb download speeds... but that went down to 50'ish at best, and it frequently gets shit if someone else is streaming while I try to play online with a load of lag spikes [though that's probably due to the shit provided router... I'll try to bridge it with a better router].

[Serpha]

Until a few years ago, the house we lived in was still served by copper... except it wasn't even copper, it was alu., so stability was absolute dogshit. The nearest cabinet was about 250m away, but the serving station for it was over a mile away. The speeds we managed were about 8mb/s maximum, and even then it'd still drop out frequently.

Not long before we moved out, they finally laid down fibre, but as I understand it, there's plenty of areas in the UK which are STILL served by the old copper/alu. infrastructure. We use FTTC at out current property (F to the cabinet, coax to the home, running over DOCSIS).

Right now, I'm waiting on a gig plan to roll out to our area. It's supposedly gonna happen by the end of 2021. I could upgrade from 350/35 to 635/41, but I don't wanna find myself unable to upgrade to the gig plan because I'm locked into a new contract.



So much of the pricing is to do with how competitive the market is. For example, in the UK, there is only 1 widespread fibre provider (Virgin Media). Some cities have other options, but because those networks only account for around 3-4% (at best) of the number of premises as Virgin, there's no real incentive for competitive pricing from Virgin. We pay around £60 a month for 350/35. We don't have options that offer significantly higher upload speeds, and it's always frustrated me that the speeds aren't synchronous on both up and down.

We used to have a 50GB data cap until ~2012. Even with megaslow 2mb/s speeds, I still managed to exceed that cap once due to a WoW PTR which required 2 fresh PTR installs due to Blizzard deciding to change things mid-PTR. I couldn't raid for a while because my connection would flake out because I'd exceeded the cap and was being limited to 56K speeds.

Most of the internet is FTTC in UK, even in London. I live in zone 3 and the best i can get on BT cable is 160 Mbps, for anything fast I need to go for Virgin. There is Gigabit internet option from independent provider only one I know that operates in London but they are picking only places with tower blocks and only after certain amount of people opt in. Right now I am paying £41 a month for 136 Mbps while Virgin offers me 500 Mbps for the same price, unfortunately I signed 2 year contract and am stuck for another 6 months.
For a city that supposed to be a "the beacon of Europe" it sure fucking isn't.

[molliewoof]

Until a few years ago, the house we lived in was still served by copper... except it wasn't even copper, it was alu., so stability was absolute dogshit. The nearest cabinet was about 250m away, but the serving station for it was over a mile away. The speeds we managed were about 8mb/s maximum, and even then it'd still drop out frequently.

Not long before we moved out, they finally laid down fibre, but as I understand it, there's plenty of areas in the UK which are STILL served by the old copper/alu. infrastructure. We use FTTC at out current property (F to the cabinet, coax to the home, running over DOCSIS).

Right now, I'm waiting on a gig plan to roll out to our area. It's supposedly gonna happen by the end of 2021. I could upgrade from 350/35 to 635/41, but I don't wanna find myself unable to upgrade to the gig plan because I'm locked into a new contract.



So much of the pricing is to do with how competitive the market is. For example, in the UK, there is only 1 widespread fibre provider (Virgin Media). Some cities have other options, but because those networks only account for around 3-4% (at best) of the number of premises as Virgin, there's no real incentive for competitive pricing from Virgin. We pay around £60 a month for 350/35. We don't have options that offer significantly higher upload speeds, and it's always frustrated me that the speeds aren't synchronous on both up and down.

We used to have a 50GB data cap until ~2012. Even with megaslow 2mb/s speeds, I still managed to exceed that cap once due to a WoW PTR which required 2 fresh PTR installs due to Blizzard deciding to change things mid-PTR. I couldn't raid for a while because my connection would flake out because I'd exceeded the cap and was being limited to 56K speeds.

BT are really catching up now, I have fibre in the phone posts outside my home, I didn't even know they had done the work to upgrade, it's been around a while and I didn't know.

I'm only getting 150 or 250, I can't remember which. but I don't need anymore. A couple of my mates pay 50 for a gig /0.1.

This is all anecdotal from the Manchester area