“You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X
I watch them fight and die in the name of freedom. They speak of liberty and justice, but for whom? -Ratonhnhaké:ton (Connor Kenway)
I don't believe we can simply hand out luxuries it's true... we can provide the requirements for life food,shelter but yes I don't believe we can sustain offering luxuries ontop of that.
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Then your limited by what the scab will take. It's why I don't believe low skilled workers can effectively unionize nor do I believe you should be able to compel people into unions.
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Sounds better when you phrase it as " you support the freedom to choose"
Tell that to McD in Sweden. And Burger King. And any other fastfood restraunt chain/franchise.
They are all unionized here. And got union contracts.
Because of that they can't fire their entire workforce and recruit a new one that's not union. (Neither can they disolve and restart buisness. They'd get hammered by the law).
Also, the driver of inflation is how big the money supply is. Not who has the money.
Nobody who argues for UBI or better support structure/more equitable wage distribution argues for the Federal Bank(s) to just print more money. They argue for taxes to be smarter and more dilligently collected.
- Lars
The term you're looking for is "work for" not "struggle."
People who are literally struggling, don't usually have upward mobility and plans to improve themselves on their mind nor do they even have the time to even consider those things because they're just trying to survive and make ends meet, going from paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, having to decide if they're going to pay rent this month or buy food for their family, typically while working more than one job.
There's nothing wrong with wanting people to work for higher standards of living, more luxury, higher pay, etc... but if you want people to improve themselves and be able to work for those things you have to give them the means to do so.
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So Jeff Bezos and other millionaires literally got every dollar they earned because of how hard they work? Bullshit.
They're taking advantage of and exploiting their own workforce, paying them lower wages to help ensure they make higher profits. If companies like Amazon paid each of their workers, not only a living wage, but one where they could be quite comfortable, Jeff Bezos would still be nauseatingly wealthy.
Jeff Bezos isn't rich because of how hard HE works, he's rich because of how hard his employees work. Don't get me wrong, he's earned his position due to his own worth ethic and decisions, but his continued massive wealth is not due in any large part because of how hard he alone works, it's everyone who works for him that enables him to continue making billions.
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Doesn't change the situation though.
You're just putting a positive spin on how you word it.
I used the word "struggle" as a counterpart of "suffering". It is one's decision, whether his hardships are a suffering or a struggle and it's pretty clear which one would blame his current state of being on some external entities and circumstances as well as completely rely on help from external entities and which one would work for a way out on his own.
Yes, every single dollar he has now is a result of the enormous initial effort he put in. Of course, now when the business is up and running it might seem running on its own, but even considering this a truth, none of this would be functioning without the massive amount of work he and others invested at the very beginning of it
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"Entitled to a share of someone else's work" is exactly how capital works.
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It's actually worse than that because privatized insurance is in effect a tax. When you factor in the cost of privatized medicine it's far worse.
It's honestly amazing how few supposed capitalists actually understand what capitalist economics even is.
Literally the entire point of capitalism as economic theory is that work should not determine wealth, ownership of the means of production should, by exploiting those who do work.
Particularly silly when they accuse me of wanting people to not enjoy the fruits of their own labor, when I'm the guy arguing for a worker-owned-collectives model of ownership for the means of production.
In fact, asking them to give up just a little bit of what they exploited out of their employees' labor is treated as a direct and untenable assault on their very being.
Really, I think it's that they realize precisely how out of whack their income is to their actual contribution, and they're dead fucking scared the normies will figure out the con.
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Riddle me this: if I already have a million dollars, spend half an hour to set up an account and buy some S&P 500 ETF, which will easily net me $30.000 after a year. Who exactly did work for these $30k? Was it the half hour I spent clicking through terms and conditions and wiring the money? Or rather the hard working minimum wage slaves in all the companies my ETF covers?
Unless you are a stockbroker operating that million on wage slaves' behalf, I'm afraid the fruits of your insightful investment is entirely yours.
Of course you can take a ride down the skid row and throw some money at poor people if you feel guilty for earning more than them, just don't make everyone do the same thing
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And I never said so either
Actually no.
He came from privilege and was supported by outsiders:
Jeff Bezos was already well off before he started Amazon (worth several hundred k),
and when his company was about to go bust in 1995 his parents invested anoterh ~250.000 $ into his company to stay afloat.
Since then he has used every loophole in the tax code to avoid paying taxes as much as possible,
invested millions in union busting to keep his workers poor,
lobbied every politician he could think of to get goverment contracts,
even got a personaly tailored bail-out thanks to bribed/lobbied politicians:
So no, not his hard work.
Unless you want to say that people should cheat, lie and bribe their way to success.
Before he started Amazon he worked in several other companies as an employee and earnt these money. He didn't miraculously find them on the roadside on his way to start Amazon. Earnt money are not privilege.
One's own family are not outsiders. If you consider your own family outsiders I can only feel bad and sad for you. Also as you stated earlier he already had more money than they gave him before he started Amazon and there'a a high chance he was also providing to his family before the company experienced economical difficulties. If helping one's own son sounds like nothing to you, consider this returning a favour
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