No, that's actually how its been during the entire cold war. It never stopped. You're just learning about this because the summer is kinda slow, nobody gives a shit about Covid anymore, it's all depressing and shit and the paper has to print something...
It's a bit of a non-story, tbh.
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Either way it's premeditated provocation by UK.
You are free to think trolling with warships is fine as long as you admit this isn't Russia escalating the situation - all Russia does here is defending status quo.
Just like in previous case with detained Ukrainian warboats.
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"Russia escalating situation by existing" is not how escalation works. There is no active conflict. "Escalation" is about changing conflict state - something clearly done by UK here, not Russia.
It clearly was intended to be televised for domestic UK audience as "UK stronk! Can poke not-so-scary Russian bear!", not to drive Russia out of Crimea.
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Yes, clearly UK is lost in modern world.
UK was just passing through ukrainian water, so what is the big deal ? Maybe you can explain to us why the russia warships were there though ?
And I must say, if it is truly for UK consumption, we must trust the russian guys, as they really know how to do that kind of stuff.
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I also wonder how many of those in the central Asian republics even exist anymore since they were built with Russian help due to actions in Afghanistan due to 9/11 and thus not really needed (hell the leaders are mostly pro-russian). I think this meme is basically from before the Arab spring as well. That's how old and out of date and wrong it is.
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It was a pure "Russia stong" move by the Russians to show the world that they still have something that floats that does not give it Sailors tetanus.
The Russians spooffed the AIS (Automatic Identification System) data to make it appear as if the Defender and HNLMS Evertsen as sailing straight for the Russian naval base in Sevastopol. When in reality the ships were not even in that area.
They then decided to shift into full propaganda mode and pretended that their "firing excericse" were warning shots.
It would be funny if it were not so sad.
Reading both side comments here and laughing. Russia doing chestbeating about how they forced the change of course (50/50, debatable) and UK claiming nothing was done, including no shots (which is false, Russians did fire warning shots. There is, however, no video of bombs being dropped so that might be false).
Then the usual claims of how much Russia sucks military wise or how superior a single destroyer is.
Close enough? Less than 3 miles or so.
To declare a ship involved in innocent passage as a threat, one has to articulate what portion of the law it is in violation of. "We don't want you to sail through here" does not actually cut it.
Had the RN decided the Su-24s were an actual threat, Russia's air force would be down a few Fencers in a manner of seconds.
The BBC in there because of the importance of the carrier deployment.
You are wrong, warships CAN enter territorial waters without permission when performing innocent passage. Russia has even agreed that is true.
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Crimea belongs to Ukraine legally. Hardly anyone agrees it belongs to Russia.
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The provocation here is Russia's theft of Ukrainian territory....