PragerU admits USA is a Racist Country

[szechuan]

PragerU with yet another Bad Faith BS talking point.
Yet even more proof that Trumpers and the GOP are currently White Washing USA History and are Racist.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I realize what Prager U was going for here as one of the few Conservative Conspiracy Collegiate Corporations (I refuse to call them a university), but they unintentionally just implied that the very values America was founded on are racist - which is so true it's funny.

[Milchshake]

This may be the greatest self-own in Twitter history and the only people who don't know it are the students & faculty at PragerU. Youtube built this institution.

Who did this!?


Honestly, Jefferson is like the literal personification of America - an educated man with high-minded views of liberty and equality, who raped his teenaged slave and sold the resulting kids.

The silver lining, is maybe just having national conversations about such a thorny topic. Europe on the other hand...

Three players on England’s soccer team who missed penalty kicks in the Euro 2020 final became the target of racist attacks on social media.
London’s Metropolitan Police said it would investigate the bigotry, which Prime Minister Boris Johnson condemned.

It's coming home lads!

[uuuhname]

whoever runs their twitter account isn't the brightest. not that Dennis is that smart either.

[Endus]

I mean, they're not wrong.

The problem is that America's founding principles are a goddamned fucking nightmare.

People always like to cite the Declaration of Independence, but the Declaration has fuck-all to do with anything America stood for at its founding.

Like, take the oft-quoted early paragraph;

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal¹, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.²--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed³, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government⁴, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

1> All men. Women need not apply.
1.1> Oh, and blacks and Asians, they're not even people, let alone men. Duh.
2> Conveniently undefined here. Also, only pursuit of happiness. Jumping at the bait to try and escape starvation qualifies as "pursuit of happiness".
3> "Consent of the governed" is a nearly meaningless phrase. All it means is that a people can rise up and throw off a government. That's it. Which they're about to do, here, hence the use of the phrase. Unless you're fomenting armed, violent rebellion, "consent of the governed" would never come up.
4> See? "If you don't give us what we want, we're gonna kill you until you fuck off."
4.1> Also note that this doesn't apply to anyone who didn't qualify as "men" at the outset. Slave rebellions and civil wars are not okay, even though we literally just said they should be.

Those are the "principles" people usually mean when they refer to the Founders; slavery, misogyny, violence, and exploitation. There's very little actual good to be found, here, once you scrape the surface and take it for what it actually meant in the context of 1776, rather than whatever you're going to try and pretend it should have meant.

[uuuhname]

Those are the "principles" people usually mean when they refer to the Founders; slavery, misogyny, violence, and exploitation. There's very little actual good to be found, here, once you scrape the surface and take it for what it actually meant in the context of 1776, rather than whatever you're going to try and pretend it should have meant.

to be fair I can see Dennis, being the massive misogynist and narcissist that he is, not disagreeing with the idea that all power should be in the hands of "land owning" that's the key part here, white men. that's part of the reason they were able to justify slavery when they created the constitution. in the minds of those men to be free was to own property, be that land, or people, because they being in that position of owning stuff, meant they knew what was best! you can see where the mind set of liberals assuming they know what's best for you, and the conservative fantasy of "meritocracy" came from.

[Levelfive]

PragerU with yet another Bad Faith BS talking point.
Yet even more proof that Trumpers and the GOP are currently White Washing USA History and are Racist.

The thing that's funny is that he's right, albeit inadvertently. Look at them, going all CRT on us. Welcome to The Resistance and such.

[omeomorfismo]

KEK.

really, the onlt answer is that, KEK >_<

[DKjaigen]

I mean, they're not wrong.

The problem is that America's founding principles are a goddamned fucking nightmare.

People always like to cite the Declaration of Independence, but the Declaration has fuck-all to do with anything America stood for at its founding.

Like, take the oft-quoted early paragraph;

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal¹, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.²--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed³, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government⁴, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

1> All men. Women need not apply.
1.1> Oh, and blacks and Asians, they're not even people, let alone men. Duh.
2> Conveniently undefined here. Also, only pursuit of happiness. Jumping at the bait to try and escape starvation qualifies as "pursuit of happiness".
3> "Consent of the governed" is a nearly meaningless phrase. All it means is that a people can rise up and throw off a government. That's it. Which they're about to do, here, hence the use of the phrase. Unless you're fomenting armed, violent rebellion, "consent of the governed" would never come up.
4> See? "If you don't give us what we want, we're gonna kill you until you fuck off."
4.1> Also note that this doesn't apply to anyone who didn't qualify as "men" at the outset. Slave rebellions and civil wars are not okay, even though we literally just said they should be.

Those are the "principles" people usually mean when they refer to the Founders; slavery, misogyny, violence, and exploitation. There's very little actual good to be found, here, once you scrape the surface and take it for what it actually meant in the context of 1776, rather than whatever you're going to try and pretend it should have meant.

Since every modern ideology stems from the founding principles that means your woke ideology does too not?

[Elegiac]

Since every modern ideology stems from the founding principles

No, they don't, and said founding principles didn't originate in America anyway as evidenced by a bunch of periwig wearing queens and the fact the Founders were the equivalent of weebs but for Ancient Rome.

[wunksta]

Since every modern ideology stems from the founding principles that means your woke ideology does too not?

Wait, do you think these were original ideas that the founding fathers came up with on their own?

[Milchshake]

The South Park-to-Prager U Pipeline is a real thing.

Change my mind.

[Edge-]

I cringed out of existence 30 seconds into that video.

[Endus]

Since every modern ideology stems from the founding principles that means your woke ideology does too not?

Why would I entertain a jingoistic lie like the idea that all modern conceptions of liberty derive from the American model? It's complete bullshit.

You've got the Magna Carta, the English Bill of Rights 1689, the work of John Locke as a political/ethical philosopher (an Englishman, I'll note), and so on. The American Bill of Rights and such was nothing more than the next iteration of a movement that had been building for centuries by that time. And most of the foundational principles behind it significantly precede the American system.

[uuuhname]

Trey Parker and Matt Stone are the kinds of libertarians that mock everyone for caring too much about doing anything. seeing as the groipers care so much about being dorks they wouldn't be spared.

[Elegiac]

Trey Parker and Matt Stone are the kinds of libertarians that mock everyone for caring too much about doing anything.

Yep, and as a result they did irreparable damage to the planet by helping furnish the notion that anthropogenic climate change is a hoax. They're equally as contemptible as folks like Prager U and don't get a pass just because they crack jokes about both sides of the aisle.

[Poopymonster]

Why would I entertain a jingoistic lie like the idea that all modern conceptions of liberty derive from the American model? It's complete bullshit.

You've got the Magna Carta, the English Bill of Rights 1689, the work of John Locke as a political/ethical philosopher (an Englishman, I'll note), and so on. The American Bill of Rights and such was nothing more than the next iteration of a movement that had been building for centuries by that time. And most of the foundational principles behind it significantly precede the American system.

Sorry, we here in the States are taught the Young Liberty theory.
All Freedom, Liberty, and Goodness came from the Founding Fathers.
Claiming those things existed before the USA is just a test of our Freeberties and American Exceptionalism.
Any so called "Proof" contrary to the Young Liberty Theory is concocted by Communists, Socialists, and any other -ist that sounds scary.
/s

[uuuhname]

Yep, and as a result they did irreparable damage to the planet by helping furnish the notion that anthropogenic climate change is a hoax. They're equally as contemptible as folks like Prager U and don't get a pass just because they crack jokes about both sides of the aisle.

eh, better throw Rick and Morty into that pool as well. the nihilism and fandom of that show is... oof

[Elegiac]

eh, better throw Rick and Morty into that pool as well. the nihilism and fandom of that show is... oof

Ah, yes, the category of "Shows that teach their audience to become lazy and self-satisfied, that praise them for being uncritically accepting of their own biases, and that providsethem with an endless buffet of thought-terminating cliches suitable for shutting down all manner of challenges to their comfort zones."

Apropos for a thread about PragerU, lol.

[Milchshake]

Trey Parker and Matt Stone are the kinds of libertarians that mock everyone for caring too much about doing anything. seeing as the groipers care so much about being dorks they wouldn't be spared.

What might really bake you're noodle is considering that John Stewart and the Daily Show also primed people for this mind set.
Sure we're, "just the lead-in potty-mouth puppets and cartoons". But they held the Rally to Restore Sanity, which in hindsight was coded "both sides are bad, nothing matters lol".
Remember, the Rally was a week before the crucial 2010 midterms on the National Mall...

If only I coulda talked to my 2010 self. I woulda warned myself about this and Cata.