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    I still don't know how you can put sensors on the field itself. I'd say put them at the goal line, and in mobile down markers (instead of the chains), and make the technology form a laser between the sidelines? Don't know how feasible that is, but it's not as simple as putting sensors at every yard line.

    Also, there's some interesting questions on how you put sensors in the ball itself, which I'd like to see how EPL does it. I'd say two, one in each tip, should be good enough, but there are rare examples (IE when the ball is cradled in the arm) that the side might cross the line when the tip doesn't. In European football, the main concern is if the whole ball is over the line, so if you put enough sensors on the perimeter of the ball, you just check for any time two opposing sensors are over the line for the ref's watch to go off.

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    If Dallas went 17-0, breezed through the playoffs, then lost the Super Bowl in overtime on the most obvious bullshit ref call ever, 99.9% of NFL fans would call them a bad team that were overrated. Meanwhile, they beat both of last year's Super Bowl teams, gave the Giants their only loss, and held the only undefeated team left to their lowest yards per play by a long shot. All with a backup quarterback.
    I covered the Giants and Eagles in the other post, but I'm not sure if you've noticed that both of last years super bowl teams are pretty mediocre this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    I still don't know how you can put sensors on the field itself. I'd say put them at the goal line, and in mobile down markers (instead of the chains), and make the technology form a laser between the sidelines? Don't know how feasible that is, but it's not as simple as putting sensors at every yard line.

    Also, there's some interesting questions on how you put sensors in the ball itself, which I'd like to see how EPL does it. I'd say two, one in each tip, should be good enough, but there are rare examples (IE when the ball is cradled in the arm) that the side might cross the line when the tip doesn't. In European football, the main concern is if the whole ball is over the line, so if you put enough sensors on the perimeter of the ball, you just check for any time two opposing sensors are over the line for the ref's watch to go off.
    I don't think we need sensors. Just need cameras + AI. If you have multiple cameras on the ball, you can precisely map exactly where the ball is at an exact moment. E.g. if the player is reaching for the goal line and trying to determine if the knee is down before crossing the plane.

    But the NFL doesn't want that. They always want a human element able to change the course of the game. Same with the MLB with reports of the robo zone not being considered for the majors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    I saw mention of rushing plays and such, so I assumed we're talking all time horror shows.
    Just wanted to clarify my post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetali View Post
    I don't think we need sensors. Just need cameras + AI. If you have multiple cameras on the ball, you can precisely map exactly where the ball is at an exact moment. E.g. if the player is reaching for the goal line and trying to determine if the knee is down before crossing the plane.

    But the NFL doesn't want that. They always want a human element able to change the course of the game. Same with the MLB with reports of the robo zone not being considered for the majors.
    I don't think there can be enough cameras to find the ball in a pile of humanity on some of those goal line plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    I don't think there can be enough cameras to find the ball in a pile of humanity on some of those goal line plays.
    Those will be IDFK plays even with that system. They'll never add sensors though. Using cameras would be a middle ground.

    Also irks me how when a punt goes out of bounds, its essentially the ref running up to where he thinks it went out of bounds. Theres no way a ref at the end zone can see where that ball went out of bounds and be accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetali View Post
    Also irks me how when a punt goes out of bounds, its essentially the ref running up to where he thinks it went out of bounds. Theres no way a ref at the end zone can see where that ball went out of bounds and be accurate.
    As far as punts go the ref running up the field is using the assist from another ref who was near the kick and they are working together. I still think that is also a terrible fucking system and makes me wonder how many hidden yards are gained or lost by such a stupid system.

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    2 games 2 TDs for Shaheed. I dunno much about that rookie but damn he's making an instant impact on this team.

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    Finally getting Hill involved in catching passes. Saints have had some huge plays and three great drives (one ending in a terrible INT by Dalton).

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    Here we go yet another play that could use chips in the ball to help the camera. Because holy crap that was close. It sure looked like the ball was being jarred loose before it crossed. Really close.

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    Oh hey, a weird goal line play that we only have one partially blocked camera angle of the ball.

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    Wow that missed low block call, that makes it sting even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetali View Post
    Oh hey, a weird goal line play that we only have one partially blocked camera angle of the ball.
    Cameras and human judgement are all we need to get the right call. Oh wait.

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    This is the first sporting event I've watched in a week, please be gentle you garbage referees.


    Edit - Ughhhhhh
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    Oh god just give the Cardinals 7 free points why don't you.

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    I know right. Well the missed XP helps a little.

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    Right through his hands and off his face, sure is nice missing all our receivers for the 20th game in a row.
    /s

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    Saints have to win so they can fulfill the dynasty of beating every bird team in a single season.

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    That shot of dalton rolling his eyes while the cb is in the background flipping into the end zone is hislarious
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    I'm not sure if you guys have noticed but sometimes I say things that are kind of dumb
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    I just like reading about the "vigorous rubbing" that might affect ball inflation.

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    Fucking Dalton...
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    Well two Taints in the game from Dalton. 3 picks, 14 points for the Cardinals. Can we get a QB that doesn't suck plz?

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    Oof. Go back to giving it to kamara.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gumboy View Post
    I'm not sure if you guys have noticed but sometimes I say things that are kind of dumb
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    I just like reading about the "vigorous rubbing" that might affect ball inflation.

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    Good thing the Saints have their first round pick to look forward to...ohwait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    Well two Taints in the game from Dalton. 3 picks, 14 points for the Cardinals. Can we get a QB that doesn't suck plz?
    I guess we get... Taysom?
    /s

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    The problem with Dalton and the Saints is when they go in 2 minute situations or trailing with little time left on the clock then you hardly see the ball in Kamara and Taysom Hill's hands.

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    I guess we get... Taysom?
    I just want him in the game 24/7 on offense.

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    Ah the surrender offense. Great. Can't turn it over that way.

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