lor'themar and thalyssra spoiler

[Feanoro]

The people miss Anduin? Presumably the masochists who want to be killed by the Horde while he throws them under the bus.

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You'd think the PC that saved her life, nursed her and her friends back to health, and then broke their addiction to the Nightwell by helping cultivate the arcan'dor tree would get a gilded invitation to the nuptials.

Unless that PC is Alliance. "Sorry about betraying you and everything I said about not being conquerors. Teehee!"

[Loreth88]

Why orcs history dont go downhill while Thrall married? Or human history when Jaina fall inlove with Kalek?
Marriage is not the end of the story, just change of status of two NPCs

That time Thrall not part of the horde really he is live in outland and don’t wanna return so.
Jaina love not really mentioned 1-2 reference they can love each other, but not we never getting more.

[Xilurm]

Ah, yes, Shaw telling Genn that multiple years have passed since Shadowlands as if he didn't know that. Such believable dialogue. Should have prefaced it with "As you know" to keep it even more real.

The "As you know" was about Wrathion. It has nothing to do with the several years have passed. That's just something he mentions.

[Auburst]

Two traitors ended up together. I think it's fucking fitting.

[geco]

The people miss Anduin? Presumably the masochists who want to be killed by the Horde while he throws them under the bus.

They don't let Alliance Players make decisions for a reason.
It is not likely that they will not side with Anduin.

[bullseyed]

100 years? Which imbecile came up with that theory? That would imply that every non-elf or non-undead character would've been been dead by the time we returned from SL.

Yeah the idea was to reset the WoW story to WoW2.0 so we can stop repeating the same stuff over and over.

[Katchii]

The problem was only that the quest started with planning to heal the world tree and things... and instead culminated with Thrall and Aggra's wedding. So it's not so much that it was 'too touchy feely' it was that it was out of place in the rest of the questline and expansion with the world exploding and distracted from the thing the quest had STARTED with.

And frankly Aggra is just not an endearing character.

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Which is especially frustrating because practically every other orc lady would've made a decent partner for Thrall, but the one they created for the job comes across as unkind and abrasive from her book and generic/bland ingame.

I remember all those out of place comments too, but the ones that stick out most to me from that time were simply about the wedding/ moment itself not about the apparent bait and switch thing with it.

I agree with you on Aggra as a character too, she always felt blad to me.

[Aresk]

I'm glad they acknowledge it in game and also did it off screen. Thrall's wedding was okay, but it felt a little out of place given everything else going on, and it wasn't really clear why the PC was there but not all the other important characters in Thrall's life. At least Thalyssra was built up outside of the relationship, so it's not another Aggra situation.

Ah, yes, Shaw telling Genn that multiple years have passed since Shadowlands as if he didn't know that. Such believable dialogue. Should have prefaced it with "As you know" to keep it even more real.

Yeah, it's just awkward. No reason they couldn't have combined that sentence with the next: "In the years since our return from the realms of Death, I've followed up on countless leads."

[Mehrunes]

The "As you know" was about Wrathion. It has nothing to do with the several years have passed. That's just something he mentions.

Reread what you replied to, because this has nothing to do with my post. Also, there's no "as you know" phrase anywhere in that dialogue. Which also serves as a hint towards the above.

Yeah, it's just awkward. No reason they couldn't have combined that sentence with the next: "In the years since our return from the realms of Death, I've followed up on countless leads."

There are actually two reasons. One, they are skill-less hacks that should be put before the ICC for crimes against writing. Two, they'd need to actually interact with other people to know how they speak and they are too busy smelling their own farts and convincing themselves they are the best thing to ever happen to fantasy writing to bother with that.

The problem was only that the quest started with planning to heal the world tree and things... and instead culminated with Thrall and Aggra's wedding. So it's not so much that it was 'too touchy feely' it was that it was out of place in the rest of the questline and expansion with the world exploding and distracted from the thing the quest had STARTED with.

And frankly Aggra is just not an endearing character.

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Which is especially frustrating because practically every other orc lady would've made a decent partner for Thrall, but the one they created for the job comes across as unkind and abrasive from her book and generic/bland ingame.

I dunno, I think Aggra grows on you somewhere between 5239876th and 5629764th time she screeched "Go'el" with that abrasive stock female Orc voice.

[Biomega]

Oh plz we are not teens anymore or older housewives with a rare good sexual act.

Ever wonder what elves get up to in the bedroom to keep things fresh?

I mean how weird would it have to get to still be exciting after THOUSANDS of years of doing stuff.

[Swnem]

You'd think the PC that saved her life, nursed her and her friends back to health, and then broke their addiction to the Nightwell by helping cultivate the arcan'dor tree would get a gilded invitation to the nuptials.

That would be if our character was canon. It's just random champion without a story.

[LordVargK]

Eh, that'd be an odd one. A half blood elf-half nightborne. Pointy ears and a wonky skin colour.

Soo, a Void Elf?

[Xilurm]

Reread what you replied to, because this has nothing to do with my post. Also, there's no "as you know" phrase anywhere in that dialogue. Which also serves as a hint towards the above.

Oh, I just thought it was sarcasm.

[Feanoro]

I dunno, I think Aggra grows on you somewhere between 5239876th and 5629764th time she screeched "Go'el" with that abrasive stock female Orc voice.

And Metzen wondered why people thought Thrall would prefer Jaina.

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They don't let Alliance Players make decisions for a reason.
It is not likely that they will not side with Anduin.

Yeah, because these days, you have to virtue signal with everything you do. The writers virtue signal with Anduin, champion of "non-toxic masculinity", and the Twitter mob Blizz deliberately attracted virtue signal by agreeing with Anduin's bullshit.

Meanwhile, the few people left who play Alliance because they like it are left out in the cold, wondering what the hell happened and why their faction either plays punching bag or woke preaching. They most definitely do not side with Anduin.

[Shaqthefat]

Of course there is! Time in Shadowlands flies faster and mortals didn’t even get older. I hope we will live up to the day where Azeroth will wake up and emerge from the planet shell.

Doesn't time go slower in the shadowlands than outside of it? When we rescue Jaina at the very start of the expansion she said she has been trying to escape for weeks and it didn't take us weeks to go after them within the Shadowlands

[geco]

Yeah, because these days, you have to virtue signal with everything you do. The writers virtue signal with Anduin, champion of "non-toxic masculinity", and the Twitter mob Blizz deliberately attracted virtue signal by agreeing with Anduin's bullshit.

Meanwhile, the few people left who play Alliance because they like it are left out in the cold, wondering what the hell happened and why their faction either plays punching bag or woke preaching. They most definitely do not side with Anduin.

Exact.
Besides there is nothing more "non-toxic masculinity". That Anduin telling Tyrande to shut up and forgive the Horde for slaughtering his race.

Anduin is like an Argentine judge. He releases the rapist and accuses the victim of wearing a short skirt.

[Aurabolt]

Pretty forced but no one is talking about this fact.

Not true. It's been known for a while. Thalyssra didn't beat around the bush in regards to wanting to get in Lor'Themar's pants real bad. LOL.

The thing that needs to be addressed? Silvermoon's leadership system. Lor'Themar is basically the king of Silvermoon all but in name but he doesn't want the title beause of Kael'Thas' betrayal, his respect for Anesterian and just not wanting the title. His problem is there's no one else readily available and everyone wants him to lead their people (though Liadrin commands the Blood Knights obviously).

Lor'Themar is basically consort of Suramar via his marriage to Thalyssra. She's still First Arcanist though my guess is her becoming Grand Magistrix will likely be noted at some point, hopefully in-game. It is a fact she's the leader of the Nightborne post-Legion though.

Genn needs to die this expansion or the next. The guy's almost 100. He is 90 years in DF

On the contrary, Gilneas is being set up to FINALLY get some much-needed attenton sooner than later. Calia Menethil proposed to the Desolate Council they give Gilneas back to its people (it's easy to forget the Forsaken have OCCUPIED Gilneas since Cataclysm). Genn absolutely needs to be around for that not just because his son is buried there but there's no clear line of succession as far as I know. Princess Mia's one of the Uncrowned obviously and Tess would probably die from the shock of her husband's death. Who does that leave? Ivar? Lorna? They'll have to build up someone to replace Genn to make it believable at this point. They haven't which tells me Genn's gonna be around for a while longer.

I think this was addressed in some of the Novels and the Worgen Heritage Quest chain but the Worgen curse basically stopped Genn from aging and in some regards turned back the clock for him. He's over 80 but physically he probably feels at least half that. He has no problem keeping up with people much younger than him in his Worgen form obviously let alone Nathanos Blightcaller above Stormhiem.

[Kallisto]

Not true. It's been known for a while. Thalyssra didn't beat around the bush in regards to wanting to get in Lor'Themar's pants real bad. LOL.

The thing that needs to be addressed? Silvermoon's leadership system. Lor'Themar is basically the king of Silvermoon all but in name but he doesn't want the title beause of Kael'Thas' betrayal, his respect for Anesterian and just not wanting the title. His problem is there's no one else readily available and everyone wants him to lead their people (though Liadrin commands the Blood Knights obviously).

Lor'Themar is basically consort of Suramar via his marriage to Thalyssra. She's still First Arcanist though my guess is her becoming Grand Magistrix will likely be noted at some point, hopefully in-game. It is a fact she's the leader of the Nightborne post-Legion though.




On the contrary, Gilneas is being set up to FINALLY get some much-needed attenton sooner than later. Calia Menethil proposed to the Desolate Council they give Gilneas back to its people (it's easy to forget the Forsaken have OCCUPIED Gilneas since Cataclysm). Genn absolutely needs to be around for that not just because his son is buried there but there's no clear line of succession as far as I know. Princess Mia's one of the Uncrowned obviously and Tess would probably die from the shock of her husband's death. Who does that leave? Ivar? Lorna? They'll have to build up someone to replace Genn to make it believable at this point. They haven't which tells me Genn's gonna be around for a while longer.

I think this was addressed in some of the Novels and the Worgen Heritage Quest chain but the Worgen curse basically stopped Genn from aging and in some regards turned back the clock for him. He's over 80 but physically he probably feels at least half that. He has no problem keeping up with people much younger than him in his Worgen form obviously let alone Nathanos Blightcaller above Stormhiem.

Tess is fully in the alliance during BFA, siding with the Gilneans and Nightelves in Darkshore after being part of the Uncrowned in Legion. Mia is Genn's wife and Queen Consort of Gilneas not another princess. Genn has been trying half-heartedly to convince Anduin to marry Tess. If Stormwind acted like a true medieval kingdom Varian would have made it part of the agreement to allow Gilneas back into the alliance to have Anduin marry Tess. Even pre-Shadowlands the nobles would have pressured Anduin to do the same.

[Aurabolt]

Tess is fully in the alliance during BFA, siding with the Gilneans and Nightelves in Darkshore after being part of the Uncrowned in Legion. Mia is Genn's wife and Queen Consort of Gilneas not another princess. Genn has been trying half-heartedly to convince Anduin to marry Tess. If Stormwind acted like a true medieval kingdom Varian would have made it part of the agreement to allow Gilneas back into the alliance to have Anduin marry Tess. Even pre-Shadowlands the nobles would have pressured Anduin to do the same.

Thanks for correcting the names. I can't believe I mixed up something so obvious X_X

That aside, I'm sure Genn knew after a while he was wasting his time trying to get Anduin to agree to marry his daughter. Varian probably wouldn't have forced Anduin to marry someone he wasn't interested in. On a related note. It's pretty interesting Varian never remarried after his own wife died. I mean I get this sentiment and all that but there's been no shortage of viable suitors since his return after TBC. Shit, he should've married Tess himself. LOL.

[Verdugo]

I dunno, I think Aggra grows on you somewhere between 5239876th and 5629764th time she screeched "Go'el" with that abrasive stock female Orc voice.

Cataclysm-era style of voicing every NPC while grabing random people from the office was sure something. Hyjal intro will forever be in my memory.