Just dinged 85.
Is tier 11 pieces bis pre-raid? Does someone have any decent pre-raid 4.2 items list?
Just dinged 85.
Is tier 11 pieces bis pre-raid? Does someone have any decent pre-raid 4.2 items list?
Any fight you swipe on (beth'tilac if you're on the ground) hit and exp become much more important, since you don't get an energy refund on a missed swipe, and mobs you're swiping will often be facing you.
On Alysrazor haste is not as good as other stats as you will be running around a fair bit without attacking (and in the burnout phase you will have berserk up).
Mihir can you please at least update the primary stats weight-agi/wep dps.How much is 1 agi and 1 wep dps?
Anymore tricks for staghelm on where to be able to shred? Guild is yelling at me for not eating the damage but I was trying to find the shred spot, although like someone said earlier, to his far left seems like its working the best.
Last edited by Avenn; 2011-07-18 at 01:21 AM. Reason: may have found shred spot
I found the claws as his stack point will allow you to shred and still take cleave dmg.
Might take some adjusting but shudnt be much of an issue if you dont take that first cleave since there is so much time until the second one.
Get really friendly with his armpit. Basically, if you align yourself right behind his pincer without getting quite in front of it, and get deep into his hit box you can shred with no problem and help soak the damage. You may miss the first distributed damage getting into position, but that first strike is relatively tame so shouldn't present any issue. This seems to be a really good fight for feral dps - I actually beat out the rest of our group in both DPS and damage done.
Finally got him down tonight and our other kitty wasn't able to make it, so my hopes were high for Fandral's, but alas - no luck... On the bright side, picked up the trinket and shoulders
Anyone else having trouble with Mew since they added the import function? It isn't generating stat values for me
Mihir, I really appreciate the effort put into compiling this guide, it is incredibly insightful and helpful.
But could you update the sections on Hit/Expertise and shed some light on why with 4.2 they have become such valuable stats for feral DPS? This still confuses me.
Thanks, my feline friend!
Multiple reasons. The buffs to savage roar and shred, the loss of 2T11 reducing bleed damage, 2T12 increasing shred damage even further, all contribute to the value of hit and expertise.
Last edited by mmoc2e7b040398; 2011-07-18 at 11:42 AM.
Guide update - BiS lists for Firelands
2.10.1 Gear list
BiS:
Head: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71488/x - H: Ragnaros
Neck: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71610/c - H: Ragnaros
Shoulder: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71490/o - H: Majordomo Staghelm
Back: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71415/d - H: Lord Rhyolith
Chest: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71486/o - H: Alysrazor
Wrist: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71428/o of the Windflurry (256 agi, 170 haste, 170 crit) - H: Alysrazor
Hands: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71487/o - H: Baleroc
Waist: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71641/b - Trash + Firestone
Legs: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71402/c - H: Beth'tilac
Feet: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71467/s - H: Majordomo Staghelm
Finger: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71216/v - Avengers of Hyjal
Finger: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71401/w - H: Beth'tilac
Trinket: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69150/m - H: Ragnaros
Trinket: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69112/t - H: Majordomo Staghelm
Weapon: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71466/f - H: Majordomo Staghelm
Relic: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71567/c - Valor + Firestone
Pre-Ragnaros HC:
Head: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71416/x - H: Lord Rhyolith
Neck: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71354/c - N: Ragnaros
Legs: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71489/c - H: Shannox
Trinket: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/68994/m - N: Ragnaros
Pre-Firelands HC
Head: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71098/x - N: Ragnaros
Neck: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71354/c - N: Ragnaros
Shoulder: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71101/o - N: Majordomo Staghelm
Back: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70992/d - N: Lord Rhyolith
Chest: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71100/o - VP
Wrist: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70735/o of the Windflurry (227 agi, 151 haste, 151 crit) - N: Alysrazor
Hands: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71097/o - VP
Waist: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/60231/b - Sinestra
Legs: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71031/c - N: Beth'tilac
Feet: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69951/s - LW
Finger: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71216/v - Avengers of Hyjal
Finger: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71032/w - N: Beth'tilac
Trinket: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/68994/m - N: Ragnaros
Trinket: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59520/t - Bastion of Twilight Trash
Weapon: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69897/f - N: Majordomo Staghelm
Relic: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71146/c - Valor
Is the general assumption regarding T12 to get Helm + Shoulders + Chest + Gloves, leaving Legs as the off-piece? If so, why?
Based on the stats:
T12 Gloves:
--- +282 Agility
--- +454 Stamina
--- +177 Crit
--- +205 Haste
T12 Helm:
--- +348 Agility
--- +611 Stamina
--- +265 Hit
--- +213 Crit
T12 Legs:
--- +368 Agility
--- +611 Stamina
--- +166 Hit
--- +310 Mastery
T12 Chest:
--- +368 Agility
--- +611 Stamina
--- +275 Crit
--- +221 Expertise
T12 Shoulders:
--- +282 Agility
--- +454 Stamina
--- +157 Crit
--- +216 Mastery
Not counting socket bonuses, it seems like if the trend is to shy away from Mastery more and more, either the Legs or the Shoulders would be worth using something else. I'm guessing that the off-set legs have better itemization than the off-set shoulders?
becase the feral druid T12 legs are under budget on stat values if you compare it to the rouge T12 or the offset legs
TREE DURID IS 4 PEE
Tbh, I don't think it is optimal strategy. Difference between T12H legs and Beth's ilvl 391 legs is lower then difference between T12N helm and ilvl 391 Ryolith's helm, and somehow I feel we won't see T12H helm in the near future. So, for progress gearing will be optimal to take Shannox' heroic leg token and Ryo's helm, as they are easiest hc bosses, and go for 4t12 + head offset.
Quick question... What would be better to start kitty dps with DMC:Hurricane or the Alchemist stone?
Going by the default 6.4/3.8/1.3 stat values posted a few posts back ( http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=...3:1.3:1.3;gb=1 ) you see that the nonset legs are 3.27 ahead of the set legs, while the closest contender, gloves, are only 2.2 ahead of the set gloves (1.42 for shoulders, 0.23 for chest, and tier head is best head).
Valuing mastery at 1.4 and the others at 1.3 gives you http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=...3:1.3:1.3;gb=1, putting the legs at 3.2, hands at 3.02.
Valuing haste at 1.4 and the others at 1.3 gives you http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=...3:1.3:1.3;gb=1, putting the legs at 4.0, hands at 1.37.
---------- Post added 2011-07-18 at 08:05 PM ----------
Ofcourse, hence the "pre-rag hc" items in the gear list.