Mages need to be nerf

[Unferth]

Of any class in the history of World of Warcraft, mages are in the most desperate need of nerfs.
They have far too many utility, with far too much dps and far too much survivability.

They are worse than Ret Paladin ever was.

to mods: I did not see the "Mages still OP" thread. Sorry for the double post.

[lookerr]

poor pvp babies

they have already been nerfed

learn to play your class and maybe it will turn out better for you

[porkface]

Not rly!

[brirrspliff]

mh, 0/10. and mages will be ok. what happens at the moment is irrelevant. 12/7 will change everything. have a nice day.

[_Fire_]

Mages can not and will not be underpowered

[theeverdead]

Everything is unbalanced right now and will not be right for a while mages have been getting nerfed but it needs to be balanced for 85 because that's where we will be in 2 months. Also pvp is not to be balanced for 1 vs 1 anyway.

[Unferth]

Everything is unbalanced right now and will not be right for a while mages have been getting nerfed but it needs to be balanced for 85 because that's where we will be in 2 months. Also pvp is not to be balanced for 1 vs 1 anyway.

Im not talking about just now, post 4.0.1, I'm talking all the time. Frost should not get a 15 sec blink, it should be 1 min; and they shouldn't get counterspell.

And ya Fire is retarded right now, but moving Scorch? Really?

[Metallikiddd]

poor pvp babies

lol yea hush you babies. buff everyone for PVE!

[Anowyn]

Speaking of OP...

Anyone been destroyed by low level rogues yet? In WSG last night rogues were absolutely demolishing people. We had a 3200 hp level 39 warrior carrying the flag and I had a bubble on him as disc and a rogue ambushed, vanished, ambushed and killed the warrior through the bubble =/ It was a sad day, lol.

[andy_mitchelluk]

The game as it is now is more balanced around level 85.
PvP is not a major concern right now as the current arena season has ended.

Wait until level 85 and then the QQ can start.

[BicycleMafioso]

Yet another case where PvE completely screws PvP over. PvE is the reason PvP is in a bad state. They should just remove pixeldragons completely.

[lookerr]

The game as it is now is more balanced around level 85.
PvP is not a major concern right now as the current arena season has ended.

Wait until level 85 and then the QQ can start.

agreed

but, all the nerfs that have occurred over the past week are because PvP whiners complained enough - its not like anyone complained mages or druid or pallys or any other class were killing bosses too fast in PvE

[Andok]

Im not talking about just now, post 4.0.1, I'm talking all the time. Frost should not get a 15 sec blink, it should be 1 min; and they shouldn't get counterspell.

And ya Fire is retarded right now, but moving Scorch? Really?

1 min blink? Really? Then I suppose that warrior charge and intercept should be 1 min, and Shadowstep should be 1 min. Also, there should be NO interrupts for mages, while everyone else gets one? Is that what you're implying?
Also, the only time mages have been OP are frost mages in Wrath, which has now been fixed, and Arcane blast now, which is a broken mechanic anyways. Also, you're actually implying that a moving scorch made the fire spec, one of the WORST pvp specs until now, overpowered? You are PATHETIC, and you're just one of the many people jumping on the QQ bandwagon.
This = QQ thread

---------- Post added 2010-10-22 at 02:28 PM ----------

Speaking of OP...

Anyone been destroyed by low level rogues yet? In WSG last night rogues were absolutely demolishing people. We had a 3200 hp level 39 warrior carrying the flag and I had a bubble on him as disc and a rogue ambushed, vanished, ambushed and killed the warrior through the bubble =/ It was a sad day, lol.

^This. SS rogues are ridiculous in low-level PvP. A lvl 16 rogue should not be able to one-shot (literally) a lvl 19 mage, especially not when the mage has 900 hp.

[shögon]

why the hell should we put up with classes being optimised for something that isn't released yet, but wait till cata is released, its not balanced till 85 - bugger off!

just enjoy being either OP or sitting ducks, freaken joke blizz pulls this crap imo

[Anowyn]

Yet another case where PvE completely screws PvP over. PvE is the reason PvP is in a bad state. They should just remove pixeldragons completely.

It would definitely take a lot of work on their part, but it would be interesting of they could make the two more separate. Such as abilities doing x effect on NPCs and doing y effect on other players. If that were the case, they could buff/nerf PvP or PvE without affecting the other. But right now, PvE people complain and it causes PvP imbalances, then PvP people complain and PvE gets the nerf bat. It's just a vicious cycle of QQ :P

I heard they're going to spend a little bit of time balancing out 1 - 80 PvP though, but I wouldn't guess they will spend that much.

[andy_mitchelluk]

why the hell should we put up with classes being optimised for something that isn't released yet, but wait till cata is released, its not balanced till 85 - bugger off!

just enjoy being either OP or sitting ducks, freaken joke blizz pulls this crap imo

The same thing happened before Wrath was released. Blizzard want people to be ready and to learn the new abilities and talents, ready for Cataclysm. It makes perfect business sense, especially when Cataclysm is going to be a HUGE change for everyone.

[Anowyn]

^This. SS rogues are ridiculous in low-level PvP. A lvl 16 rogue should not be able to one-shot (literally) a lvl 19 mage, especially not when the mage has 900 hp.

Seriously, haha. They're crazy. It starts to get a little better with each bracket you go up, but they're still pretty hard core in the 30-39 bracket. I think it will start to level off a bit in the 40 - 49 bracket and probably quite a bit by the 50 - 59 bracket. 10 - 19 is the worst by far.

[brirrspliff]

Yet another case where PvE completely screws PvP over. PvE is the reason PvP is in a bad state. They should just remove pixeldragons completely.

dude, even if you're just trolling - it's a PVE game. pvp was just an addition. plus, pve is much cooler. if i want pvp, i'll start up quakelive and show my skills, not in an mmo game... always funny to read when some pvp kids think the game's centered around their little FOTM arenas. hihi.

[shögon]

makes perfect sense that you have to buy there next expansion pack or your class is broken..
never mind me, ive have to much to drink and no time to play

[lhehitman]

1 min blink? Really? Then I suppose that warrior charge and intercept should be 1 min, and Shadowstep should be 1 min. Also, there should be NO interrupts for mages, while everyone else gets one? Is that what you're implying?
Also, the only time mages have been OP are frost mages in Wrath, which has now been fixed, and Arcane blast now, which is a broken mechanic anyways. Also, you're actually implying that a moving scorch made the fire spec, one of the WORST pvp specs until now, overpowered? You are PATHETIC, and you're just one of the many people jumping on the QQ bandwagon.
This = QQ thread

---------- Post added 2010-10-22 at 02:28 PM ----------



^This. SS rogues are ridiculous in low-level PvP. A lvl 16 rogue should not be able to one-shot (literally) a lvl 19 mage, especially not when the mage has 900 hp.

THIS^^^^ stop QQIng and learn to play your class. I cannot even believe you want a 1min blink and NO counterspell, are you retarted. Nothing you say will be taken seriously after that moronic dribble that came out of your mouth.