Patch 4.2 PTR Notes Update - May 24th

[Cirque]

"Removed one of each type of Bound elemental from the Ascendant Council chamber."

lol @ removing trash?? saving raids all of 60 seconds?

Was the most annoying thrash ever, though, and there were far too many mobs. We got the point after the fourth pair. That's something they should have done eons ago. I don't mind thrash, but I mind thrash that seems endless and has no variation, like this particular thrash. We often make a lot of AFK jokes when we hit that point of BoT again too.

Either way, careface, good players will be in Firelands when this goes live and those who can't will enjoy the now for them accessible content. Without having to suffer this shitty thrash like we did, to boot.

[Toffie]

wrath of the lich king is a failure.. actualy ... just to mention a rehashed naxx, which was boring, and then toc? a never ending icc, with the 30% trololol buff? no no, BC was a success, WoTLK is a failure. subs went up during wotlk, because people were still charmed over BC, and subs went down during cata, coz people were bored of wow due to wotlk .. and as it looks, subs will continue to go down ... blizz will continue to think its all about raid difficulty and will keep nerfing it more and more, and subs will go further and further down... /popcorn

You just killed my mind.

[Fusmu]

Now scrubs can apply applications with "I'M 12/12 5+/13 HC and I'm so cool"

[Toffie]

Now scrubs can apply applications with "I'M 12/12 5+/13 HC and I'm so cool"

Heroics aren't getting nerfed, fool.

[Fusmu]

We will see that, fool.

[Notos]

Perhaps their goal is to make Tier 11 raids more alt accessible while mains raid T12.

This is definitely one of the reasons. My rogue will be very happy indeed, she's going to hit 85 soon and will be able to farm up some decent gear right off the bat from the old content.

[Shpetznaz]

(quote by some guy)
Why are people complaining? This won't be implemented until after 4.2, when VP and Daily Quest-purchased gear will be substantially better than Heroic T11.
(/quote by some guy)

Exactly.. so why nerf it then ?

THIS

[Siilk]

the only reason i was looking forward to cata was that blizzard claimed that raiding content will be "hard", maybe not as challanging as tbc but more challanging that lolWotLK. This is the only reason i came back to the game. i knew they would eventually give us free epics once new content came out but nerfing the content?srsly? isnt the whole point of giving welfare epics to people is to make the content easier? there is no need to nerf the raids, they should remain challanging. The reason people are quitting is because of the easiness of the raids. I know alot of casual player cry, but i am also a casual player and I dont find any reason why the content should be easy, it only makes me want to raid more and not less by giving up. I really wish i could go back to BOT,BWD and toftw even after firelands is out and find it still challenging. I had hope for cata...but seeing the direction blizz is taking, i am very disappointed.

[Ragu]

are these nerfs only for normal mode or also for heroic?

The nerfs are normal mode only, according to a blue post by Bashiok.

[Toffie]

the only reason i was looking forward to cata was that blizzard claimed that raiding content will be "hard", maybe not as challanging as tbc but more challanging that lolWotLK. This is the only reason i came back to the game. i knew they would eventually give us free epics once new content came out but nerfing the content?srsly? isnt the whole point of giving welfare epics to people is to make the content easier? there is no need to nerf the raids, they should remain challanging. The reason people are quitting is because of the easiness of the raids. I know alot of casual player cry, but i am also a casual player and I dont find any reason why the content should be easy, it only makes me want to raid more and not less by giving up. I really wish i could go back to BOT,BWD and toftw even after firelands is out and find it still challenging. I had hope for cata...but seeing the direction blizz is taking, i am very disappointed.

You are probaly the dumbest person out of all these dumb post. People quitting because of the easiness? I wanna bash my own skull and possibly cut myself from you so stupid post.

Heroic Blackwing Descent
H: Magmaw: 7756 (13.22%)
H: Omnotron Defense System: 3045 (5.19%)
H: Maloriak: 7936 (13.53%)
H: Atramedes: 9573 (16.32%)
H: Chimaeron: 10523 (17.94%)
H: Nefarian: 1339 (2.28%)
Heroic The Bastion of Twilight
H: Halfus Wyrmbreaker: 16572 (28.25%)
H: Valiona and Theralion: 4236 (7.22%)
H: Ascendant Council: 526 (0.90%)
H: Cho'gall: 1032 (1.76%)
H: Sinestra: 530 (0.90%)
Heroic Throne of the Four Winds
H: Conclave of Wind: 2823 (4.81%)
H: Al'Akir: 1012 (1.73%)

[Rigrot]

Anyone who should care about this will be going to firelands. Everyone who think cata is too hard can now go raid without having a hard time. Everyone wins.

[Coldkil]

Expected nerf for outdated content

edit: Is it only normal content that is being nerfed?

[Solzan Nemesis]

I love how the only thing that effaces me is a buff.

[runeb1980@hotmail.com]

In vanilla & TBC only a few percent of paying customers ever saw endgame content. Is that fair? No it's not.

If you're so hardcore, play heroic or STFU. That's why the mode exists.

[The Taco Man]

Ghostcrawler:

WE FEEL that too many people weren't finished with the current content, so we intentially held back firelands

BLIZZARD EXECS (To shareholders):

WE FEEL that people have burned through the cataclysm content too quickly, so we will work hard to push out new content faster}

Ghostcrawler:

WE FEEL that we don't need to 'nerf' heroics and raids, as when people get better gear they tend to 'nerf' themselves

BLIZZARD EXECS (Via patch notes):

WE FEEL that raids are hard man! Have a flat 20% nerf to every encounter! Everyone has a turn hitting the loot pinatas!


So does anyone else feel that between these two statements, ghostcrawler has lost all of his credibility?

NB: I'm not too fussed either way, as my guild is currently 8/13 heroic, and will be smashing out firelands come 4.2, but I'm a bit peeved that ghostcrawler keeps blatantly lying to us in order to try and appease us. Here's a hint bro: we get more pissed off when you lie and then we find out the truth instead of you just telling us the truth straight out.

[Toffie]

Ghostcrawler:

WE FEEL that too many people weren't finished with the current content, so we intentially held back firelands

BLIZZARD EXECS (To shareholders):

WE FEEL that people have burned through the cataclysm content too quickly, so we will work hard to push out new content faster}

Ghostcrawler:

WE FEEL that we don't need to 'nerf' heroics and raids, as when people get better gear they tend to 'nerf' themselves

BLIZZARD EXECS (Via patch notes):

WE FEEL that raids are hard man! Have a flat 20% nerf to every encounter! Everyone has a turn hitting the loot pinatas!


So does anyone else feel that between these two statements, ghostcrawler has lost all of his credibility?

NB: I'm not too fussed either way, as my guild is currently 8/13 heroic, and will be smashing out firelands come 4.2, but I'm a bit peeved that ghostcrawler keeps blatantly lying to us in order to try and appease us. Here's a hint bro: we get more pissed off when you lie and then we find out the truth instead of you just telling us the truth straight out.

Ghostcrawler can't see into the future, what is wrong with?

[Carighan]

Well I can see why they've nerfed the raids. Less skilled players will now be able to complete them and see the content at a difficulty thats right for them whereas the newer raids will be for more skilled at the intended difficulty level. Means casuals or however people wanna call it will always be a step behind tier wise to a certain extent.

I think it's a interesting compromise.

The problem is that this already existed. The progression from heroic 5mans into the first normal mode raid bosses was smooth (from non-troll instances). Now many Zandalar 5man bosses will be noticeably tougher than some of the entry-level raid bosses (Magmaw / Omnitron / Halfus).

[Deleted]

After they announced that you need tier 11 boss kills to start the legendary I fully expected nerfs on this stuff.
Though I must say I'm a bit amazed they did it pro-actively instead of waiting for the whines after 4.2 is released

[Deleted]

LOL its joke? why? lol

[Keosen]

30 pages of whine for content that almost everyone cleared and only the very new guilds are farming it and now they will have the chance of clear it before the new tier.
Einstein was so right “Two things are infinite: the universe and wow's community stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.”