Pokémon!

[Skelington]

Changing Ash out wouldn't really make any difference except forcing the writers to throw in much more filler to develop the new nameless lead.

Paul IS Gary without the pedo-cheerleaders.

Paul is just condescending. He has no personality.



Ash has been long overdone. They should have changed him out after Kanto ended and keep each season going by characters in the games. Which, Ash shouldve been Red anyway.

[Swizzle]

I don't feel like having to redevelop the characters each and every season, that would get old and repetitive and the show probably wouldn't have any staying power. Secondly, the leads rally are interchangeable and only differ in appearance.

Oh yeah, Paul does have personality, especially if you watch later on in the D/P saga. Trying to fix the mistakes your brother made is better than trolling people on a skateboard.

[Digglett]

Changing Ash out wouldn't really make any difference except forcing the writers to throw in much more filler to develop the new nameless lead.

Paul IS Gary without the pedo-cheerleaders.

Eh, not really, if they just followed the story of the games they'd be fine, maybe a filler here and there, but nothing over baring. They could at least age Ash, make him not so much of a horrible character, SOMETHING.

[Swizzle]

Eh, not really, if they just followed the story of the games they'd be fine, maybe a filler here and there, but nothing over bearing.

That's what the current anime does, except you have a familiar lead that many people feel attached to. Then again, I hate how they randomly reset Ash for B/W.

[Skelington]

I don't feel like having to redevelop the characters each and every season, that would get old and repetitive and the show probably wouldn't have any staying power. Secondly, the leads rally are interchangeable and only differ in appearance.

Oh yeah, Paul does have personality, especially if you watch later on in the D/P saga. Trying to fix the mistakes your brother made is better than trolling people on a skateboard.

Johto was the series that turned the show off for me. It was just Ash again, doing the same old whatnot with Misty and Brock again, only with new pokemon. Apparently he wouldnt carry any of his old ones with him, and his godly pikachu went back to not being as powerful until later on in the show. They couldve done a lot more by just ending with Ash in Kanto, never doing Orange Islands, and beginning the Johto season with Ethan.

[Swizzle]

Johto was the series that turned the show off for me. It was just Ash again, doing the same old whatnot with Misty and Brock again, only with new pokemon. Apparently he wouldnt carry any of his old ones with him, and his godly pikachu went back to not being as powerful until later on in the show. They couldve done a lot more by just ending with Ash in Kanto, never doing Orange Islands, and beginning the Johto season with Ethan.

Except no Ash and Pikachu, so you lose your mascot and brand appeal. They also explain why he resets his Pokemon each season (although it IS just a ploy to advertise the new games more). Basically...your ideas would kill off the anime, which isn't good since Gamefreak makes more money off anime related stuff than the the games.

[mynameisjona]

Plus, they really needed that pun "The world will turn to Ash"

[Skelington]

Except no Ash and Pikachu, so you lose your mascot and brand appeal. They also explain why he resets his Pokemon each season (although it IS just a ploy to advertise the new games more). Basically...your ideas would kill off the anime, which isn't good since Gamefreak makes more money off anime related stuff than the the games.

Perhaps, but there is only one way to find out. Poliwhirl was originally one of the mascots, and its been cut out.

[Swizzle]

Perhaps, but there is only one way to find out. Poliwhirl was originally one of the mascots, and its been cut out.

The problem is...well, the game leads are faceless and voiceless. Unless you read the manga, which has nothing to do with the games or anime, they really are plain-Jane characters much the same way Link is in LoZ. Basing the anime around them would be awful. I mean, it's not like the shows been going strong for years or anything.

[Skelington]

The problem is...well, the game leads are faceless and voiceless. Unless you read the manga, which has nothing to do with the games or anime, they really are plain-Jane characters much the same way Link is in LoZ. Basing the anime around them would be awful. I mean, it's not like the shows been going strong for years or anything.

Going strong on Ash. But we'll never really know how Ethan or Brendan or Lucas would have faired.

[Duruka]

If you want the story about the game characters, then read the manga. The anime is a different story, about Ash, made for kids.

[Darios]

I think there was a strong movement to turn the manga into an animated series a while back. It could make a very good OVA series if they decided to it considering the characters actually have personality and aren't dumbasses like ash.

[Skelington]

If you want the story about the game characters, then read the manga. The anime is a different story, about Ash, made for kids.

It is now. But it could have been something more. Based on the manga as Darios said.

[Darios]

Well the pokemon show is actually based off the manga, at least in part. Except the manga didn't have to be dumbed down for television so it came out much better (click my sig to learn more )

[Duruka]

It is now. But it could have been something more. Based on the manga as Darios said.

That wouldn't really change the writing. Ash could have had a personality, the writers just didn't give him one. Why do you think they'd do any better with manga characters?

And if they hired new writers to make the anime about manga characters, they may as well just give Ash a personality instead.

[Darios]

I dunno, I doubt they would do this but they could outsource the manga as a show. Bones has had a particularly good track record turning semi-shounen mangas into successful animes.

[Swizzle]

That wouldn't really change the writing. Ash could have had a personality, the writers just didn't give him one. Why do you think they'd do any better with manga characters?

And if they hired new writers to make the anime about manga characters, they may as well just give Ash a personality instead.

That's what I've been thinking. If they threw in the game characters, they'd just end up with Ash's personality with a slightly different aesthetic and require more filler episodes to get the same depth that Ash has. All in all, if they reset the character each season, you'd have for a weaker show. It's like...if the Simpsons changed leads each season. Sure, they could, but what would be the point?

[Skelington]

That's what I've been thinking. If they threw in the game characters, they'd just end up with Ash's personality with a slightly different aesthetic and require more filler episodes to get the same depth that Ash has. All in all, if they reset the character each season, you'd have for a weaker show. It's like...if the Simpsons changed leads each season. Sure, they could, but what would be the point?

The Simpsons didnt have a video game series with differing characters though. Skelington doesnt think theyd be like Ash either, as they are different characters. None of the main characters(Brock, Misty, Ash etc) were the same in personality, and just because each wants to be a pokemon master doesnt mean they would go about it in the same general direction.

[Swizzle]

The Simpsons didnt have a video game series with differing characters though. Skelington doesnt think theyd be like Ash either, as they are different characters. None of the main characters(Brock, Misty, Ash etc) were the same in personality, and just because each wants to be a pokemon master doesnt mean they would go about it in the same general direction.

What personality do the game leads have? None. The writers would simply put in the successful Ash personality into an empty shell. There really is no reason to think that any of the game characters would be a better lead than Ash.

[Skelington]

What personality do the game leads have? None. The writers would simply put in the successful Ash personality into an empty shell. There really is no reason to think that any of the game characters would be a better lead than Ash.

They why even bother changing the game character/rival from Red?

Of course there is reason. None of them are the same person. The writers can come up with something, like have Ethan be very intelligent contrasting Ash's being a dumbass. The same goal can be achieved in multiple ways.