FCC to vote on scrapping Net Neutrality

[Zandermill]

How is this "the left cannibalizing their own"? Just because Verizon or Yahoo may support some progressive causes doesn't mean that "the left" owes them shit or that any progressives consider either company "their own".

He was not Obama's choice to head the FCC, Trump picked him. He was Obama's choice for various roles in the FCC, at the request of Mitch McConnell, but his term ended earlier this year. Trump brought him back to the FCC and made him the head of the agency.

At least get your basic facts right.

Ummm...
He was appointed in 2012 to the FCC by President Obama. So yeah, he sorta is President Obama's guy. Did Trump in 2017 promote him? Yes, more than likely he was the best guy for the job. So please don't go pointing that he is 100% a Trumpster, he really isn't. Also, Yahoo and Verizon support a majority of progressive causes in the United States as well as in Europe (Verizon's got a majority stakeholder in the EU.)

Did Mitch Mc-conster help him get in? Yes. But I guess it's bad new's to help push a minority to head the FCC unless they obey their Sith Democratic masters? .

Anyway, please continue to cannibalize yourselves Dem's. It's super funny to watch the hatred of two (major) companies that push your narrative.

[Grapemask]

Ummm...
He was appointed in 2012 to the FCC by President Obama. So yeah, he sorta is President Obama's guy. Did Trump in 2017 promote him? Yes, more than likely he was the best guy for the job. So please don't go pointing that he is 100% a Trumpster, he really isn't. Also, Yahoo and Verizon support a majority of progressive causes in the United States as well as in Europe (Verizon's got a majority stakeholder in the EU.)

Did Mitch Mc-conster help him get in? Yes. But I guess it's bad new's to help push a minority to head the FCC unless they obey their Sith Democratic masters? .

Anyway, please continue to cannibalize yourselves Dem's. It's super funny to watch the hatred of two (major) companies that push your narrative.

NOTHING OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING MAKES ANY SENSE. You realize this, right? Right?

[Edge-]

Ummm...
He was appointed in 2012 to the FCC by President Obama. So yeah, he sorta is President Obama's guy. Did Trump in 2017 promote him? Yes, more than likely he was the best guy for the job. So please don't go pointing that he is 100% a Trumpster, he really isn't. Also, Yahoo and Verizon support a majority of progressive causes in the United States as well as in Europe (Verizon's got a majority stakeholder in the EU.)

You're making a lot of leaps all over the place but let's take this from the start.

Yes, he was appointed by Obama. I don't agree with all of Obama's decisions, believe it or not, nor his appointees. "The left" isn't some hive mind.

I've never said he "is 100% a Trumpster", or even anything remotely like that, so not sure where why you're telling me he isn't. But alright, I guess?

Yes, a number of tech companies support various progressive causes. They also face heavy progressive criticism for some of their behaviors and decisions, because the world isn't black and white and people are capable of supporting some things a company does while not supporting other things the company does. So while Yahoo or Verizon may get some praise for various causes they support that doesn't mean that progressives support literally everything they do. Not sure why this needs to be explained, but oh well.

Did Mitch Mc-conster help him get in? Yes. But I guess it's bad new's to help push a minority to head the FCC unless they obey their Sith Democratic masters? .

No, was merely pointing out a fact. It's interesting that you decided to make this about race though, I thought that was a SJW thing to do.

Anyway, please continue to cannibalize yourselves Dem's. It's super funny to watch the hatred of two (major) companies that push your narrative.

Still not sure how anyone is cannibalizing anything, and this strawman is getting pretty tattered : /

[Kiri]

Ummm...
He was appointed in 2012 to the FCC by President Obama. So yeah, he sorta is President Obama's guy. Did Trump in 2017 promote him? Yes, more than likely he was the best guy for the job. So please don't go pointing that he is 100% a Trumpster, he really isn't. Also, Yahoo and Verizon support a majority of progressive causes in the United States as well as in Europe (Verizon's got a majority stakeholder in the EU.)

Did Mitch Mc-conster help him get in? Yes. But I guess it's bad new's to help push a minority to head the FCC unless they obey their Sith Democratic masters? .

Anyway, please continue to cannibalize yourselves Dem's. It's super funny to watch the hatred of two (major) companies that push your narrative.

He did not say that, though, even if you would have liked to hear it. It is the Sith who only think in extremes, i.e. him having to be either 100% Trumpster or Obamalyte. It was a Republican position, McConnell suggested that guy and he was appointed. He was not made head of the FCC though, and the head that Obama picked steered the FCC on a completely different course. Not sure how this, then, could be what Obama had wanted.

Nuance does not seem to be your strong suit though, so I reckon you will ignore this.

[mvaliz]

Dude, they (R) gotta delay this vote or vote in favor of it keeping NN tomorrow... because if this passes, combined with the Pedophile loss in Alabama....Ho-LEE-SHITE will it be a GoP catastrophe of a week!

[Waniou]

- Government is against you (lol)

So I watched his first wee ramble, about how the more benign a law sounds, the worse it probably is, and it seems to ignore the fact (granted, I don't know how old this video is) that Pai is labelling his NN repeal as "restoring internet freedom" (Hey, that sounds pretty great! Must actually be terrible), and the fact that NN repeal is a government action. If government is so bad, why should we trust them in repealing NN being the right thing to do?

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Yes, he was appointed by Obama. I don't agree with all of Obama's decisions, believe it or not, nor his appointees. "The left" isn't some hive mind.

Wasn't he appointed because Obama was required to have two republicans?

[Ivanstone]

Ummm...
He was appointed in 2012 to the FCC by President Obama. So yeah, he sorta is President Obama's guy. Did Trump in 2017 promote him? Yes, more than likely he was the best guy for the job. So please don't go pointing that he is 100% a Trumpster, he really isn't. .

This isn't a left vs right thing. This is an ISP Lobbying vs everyone else thing. Pai is a lobbyist for the ISP's, his party affiliation is irrelevant. The ISP's want to get rid of Net Neutrality so they can maintain their oligopoly. They have no interest in competing with each other or providing quality service. They only want to bleed you and other tech companies dry.

I find the Republican opposition to NN to be stupid. Yes, part of that's because of lobbying by ISP and part of it is because Obama was pro-NN. Nevertheless everyone else is for NN and some of those people have probably not bribed them sufficiently

[masterhorus8]

Wasn't he appointed because Obama was required to have two republicans?

^ This. He had already picked his own choices, but as Edge pointed out, Pai was McConnell's choice. But that was only to put him in a position in the FCC. Trump is indeed the one that bumped him up to Chairman.

[TEHPALLYTANK]

It's humorous how much the left cannibalizes it's own. Verizon along with it's child company Yahoo are strong left learners, the head of the FCC Ajit Pai is Obama's choice to head up the FCC, and yet it's somehow Trump's and the Republicans fault?
Great jump's of logic there folks. That's your guy doing what Obama chose him for the FCC to do. Trump's obviously too stupid according to most posters here to either A, know what's going on. Or B, not know how it will affect everything.

Oh Well, I work for Big Red, so I don't care one bit.

Ajit Pai was designated as chair in January of 2017, and was confirmed to serve as chair for 5 more years on October 2nd, 2017. Trump is responsible for his own appointments, so yeah it is the fault of Trump and the Republicans.

[solinari6]

Ummm...
Did Trump in 2017 promote him? Yes, more than likely he was the best guy for the job.

Whoa whoa whoa there pardner! That's quite the leap in logic, considering the people Trump has picked for other various positions.

[Blur4stuff]

I suppose Pai is the best person for the job if you're an executive at Verizon or Comcast. Also if you're a major stockholder in companies like that.

[Stormspark]

I suppose Pai is the best person for the job if you're an executive at Verizon or Comcast. Also if you're a major stockholder in companies like that.

He IS an executive at Verizon. He works for them, directly. He was planted in the FCC by Verizon for this purpose.

[Breccia]

Dude, they (R) gotta delay this vote or vote in favor of it keeping NN tomorrow... because if this passes, combined with the Pedophile loss in Alabama....Ho-LEE-SHITE will it be a GoP catastrophe of a week!

Wait till the tax cut for the rich passes. There isn't a poll alive that puts that above water. All 3 together, damn.

[Dontrike]

Wrong, NN is a market regulation.

Because regulation automatically means it's stifling the market? Watch out everyone, we're stifling those billionaires from getting their next private island. If NN stands how will those corporations afford to give the CEO another 50 million a year? We'll have to rush out and help those poor poor billionaires.

[Elegiac]

Wait till the tax cut for the rich passes. There isn't a poll alive that puts that above water. All 3 together, damn.

I honestly don't see the GOP surviving 2018 unless it's by some miracle. As much as the general public hated what the Clinton philosophy offered, it's becoming abundantly clear that they hate the Republican alternative even more.

[Dontrike]

It's humorous how much the left cannibalizes it's own. Verizon along with it's child company Yahoo are strong left learners, the head of the FCC Ajit Pai is Obama's choice to head up the FCC, and yet it's somehow Trump's and the Republicans fault?
Great jump's of logic there folks. That's your guy doing what Obama chose him for the FCC to do.

Congrats, I've been up for 20 minutes and already nothing will top this level of "logic".

How is it the left cannibalizing it's own? Verizon is actively paying someone, the head of the FCC, to help only its interest and line it's pockets further. Matter of fact Trump put him there so yes, it's his fault.

The only person here making leaps of logic is you. Giant moon leaps in logic.

Trump's obviously too stupid according to most posters here to either A, know what's going on. Or B, not know how it will affect everything.

Name 12 times when Trump has actually known what he's been doing and you win the argument, until then the evidence is stacked against him.

[Wyrt]

Wrong, NN is a market regulation.

It's regulation to ensure that the internet is a free market because it's not a free market on it's own. It's a captive market.

[PC2]

It's regulation to ensure that the internet is a free market because it's not a free market on it's own. It's a captive market.

It is a free market on it's own. If it's not then it's because an earlier regulation screwed it up, which means the solution is further deregulation to make sure new ISP competitors can be established.

[Wyrt]

It is a free market on it's own. If it's not then it's because an earlier regulation screwed it up, which means the solution is further deregulation to make sure new ISP competitors can be established.

The biggest road block to competition is infrastructure. A new ISP can't afford to lay miles and miles of cables, let alone considering how complicated things would be if a dozen ISPs laid cables everywhere. That means they have to share the existing infrastructure and ISPs don't want to share.

[Cthulhu 2020]

It's humorous how much the left cannibalizes it's own. Verizon along with it's child company Yahoo are strong left learners, the head of the FCC Ajit Pai is Obama's choice to head up the FCC, and yet it's somehow Trump's and the Republicans fault?
Great jump's of logic there folks. That's your guy doing what Obama chose him for the FCC to do. Trump's obviously too stupid according to most posters here to either A, know what's going on. Or B, not know how it will affect everything.

Oh Well, I work for Big Red, so I don't care one bit.

It should speak more volumes to you that the left's voter base doesn't automatically go along with every single bad idea thought up by their own politicians, unlike the right which just guzzles down whatever Trump jizz filled kool aid that is put in front of them on Fox News.