You misunderstand me. There's a difference between "I'm owed a relationship" drivel and "I can't get a woman despite trying". At the moment incels are what, the bottom 5% of the male population, tops? Wait until it's the bottom 20% or whatever - you'll soon see serious social unrest.
China may be about to experience something similar, incidentally, as they have a very lopsided M:F ratio of births - about 120 boys to every 100 girls. That means a lot of guys without women in their lives - much more than the usual tiny minority society can handle.
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Who's to say in this day and age, who can really tell you what to do... for me it sounds like a lot of hard work but for anyone else, live your dream
yes definietly would .
sadly women here are rather conservative . but i always liked they idea of harem
An unbalanced ratio is one thing, but a lot what I see from these incels is another. There are guys out there, wondering why they don't get a partner, while everything about them is telling everybody why. Only those guys themselves don't seem to understand.
Take a look at myself. I am quite heavy overweight, long hair and beard, have a passion for comics, fantasy and video games. Pretty much what you see with those guys, right?
The difference is, I know when to shut up about something, I groom myself and dress accordingly. I don't try to be someone I am not. And I had my share of success. I am having a partner for half my life and my share of, let's call it mutual benefical adventures... or plainly hookups. I had these before and during my relationship. In the last part with the blessing and participation of my Partner, if anyone cares.
Okay, I understand your point, but that would mean that "legalizing" polygamy would take something from people who would get it otherwise. So if you take your average incel, your point, the other way around would mean, without polygamy, some girl would settle for him. But I think, with or without polygamy, the number of incels would be the same.
No, because more men who today do find women would not do so in a polygamous society. Women are hypergamous, meaning they prefer to hook up with men of equal or higher social status*, and historically have been willing to share a man with multiple women. Men are hypogamous - ie they prefer women of equal or lower status. Yeah yeah broad brush strokes and all that NAXALT stuff, but the point still stands.
Let's use the old dating thing of rating people from 1 to 10. Right now, the male 10s get the female 10s and some of the 9s too. The male 1s might get screwed, but monogamy means the vast majority of those in the middle at least get a fair shake at things. But with polygamy and female hypergamy, the male 10s get all the female 8s and higher, the male 9s have to make do with the 7s, and down it goes until the male 3s and below are all without women.
That doesn't mean the male 3s & below are suddenly all modern stereotypical incels, but it does mean they're incels in the technical sense, ie involuntary celibates. They want a woman, they try, and under a monogamous social system (ie like today in the West) they'd succeed, but due to polygamy they're now screwed.
*Here's some fun stuff about this from OkCupid:
https://web.archive.org/web/20091122...-online-dating
"Women, on the other hand, are harsh with their ratings. According to the study, they rate a whopping 80% of men on the site as ‘below average’."
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If one of those women, wanted to add another man into the relationship, would he be down for it?
It’s almost as if that polygamy bullshit is just another way to control women and treat them like objects. It’s 2019, get with the times.
change can't wait.
People can do what they want on their own time, within their own religious ceremonies, and within their own private contracts, but I do not see any upside to societal normalization of polygamy or legally recognizing it.
For most people, marriage has turned into a romantic and expensive gimmick with no real meaning or social function. It no longer structures society and it makes no difference if couples are married or not. It is a wonder we still have laws about it. That's why it can now take so many grotesque forms.
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OP, let me put it this way. It is much more than sex and almost everyone WILL FAIL at it. It absolutely is not for everyone.
It is not a threesome (even those can have problems about who does and gets what), but a life choice and we know human nature.
I am not against it, but it is not something I would attempt to have.
To be fair, that is a somewhat reasonable assumption given present society. I don't think we're quite at a point of sexual equality as a general society where there would be sufficient F/M/M (or other multiple-partner arrangements) sets to balance things out reasonably.
Given a society with sufficient sexual equality, there isn't any reason why another powerful and wealthy female wouldn't take 47 male concubines (or whatever the correct word for "male concubine" is), thus solving that problem, at least in principle.
Though I still would think that much slantedness isn't necessarily optimal.
The word you're looking for is "polyandry". The article gives some known examples. But yeah, it does seem to have been uncommon historically compared to the number of societies that practised monogamy or polygyny.
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Could or Would you do it?
Nope.
If so why or why not?
Monogamy is easier. Relationships are tough enough with two people. Three? Fuck that. Plus I've never met a Poly "couple" that wasn't a fucked up tangled mess of mental illness and abusive problems.
What would be the pros and cons specifically of a 3 way marriage?
Pros: Financial boosts, three is better than two or one, or two working and one doesn't. Sex life might be easier to manage since a second woman might be able to take some of that off me and give me some rest. Plus child care maybe.
Cons: Conflicting personalities. Instability. Power dynamics are harder to manage. Get the feeling of being part of someones harem and not a partnership between two equals.
And do you Support Multiple marriages?
Polyamory is a disaster, usually popular among degenerates and cheaters who ultimately just want to sleep around. Plus its unstable for family formation and causes a lot of social problems for society at large. Should be shunned and vigorously rejected.
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Marriage is cool, especially when you have two wives