I can't believe people think mage tower was easy like visions. Seriously, we are on the same tier visions were released and it's so damn easy right now that it's sad. I don't even know why there's a FOS linked to it.
I can't believe people think mage tower was easy like visions. Seriously, we are on the same tier visions were released and it's so damn easy right now that it's sad. I don't even know why there's a FOS linked to it.
I can't believe anyone would think mage tower was even remotely as hard as visions. Mage tower in current tier but raid gear was so damn easy i went with heroic gear affli warlock and did it on 2nd try without knowing how to play this spec properly, and I didn't even had this legendary that perma slowed enemy on corruption.
I suppose it depends on which class and which spec. I remember only being able to do Afflic once I got the legendary ring, and the other specs were far easier. But it was the kind of thing that if you fuck up once, you're already behind, twice, it's over.
I imagineyou could compare that with Visions and the failsafe the first time, but visions 5 man is honestly a joke after you manage to handle the Gift proc properly. Even Stormwind is kind of a joke once you pace yourself properly. You barely need to use an orb after you do it right. There was nothing easy as that with the mage tower.
Ele shaman and Prot paladin 460ilvl~ with cloak 11 or 12, can't remember.
The thing is, visions barely have mechanics. With cloak rank 15 it's just ridiculous, absolute 0 challenge, you simply cannot fail. At least mage tower you could still fail because of mechanics.
Last edited by MakeMeLaugh; 2020-03-25 at 06:59 PM.
comparing visions to mage tower is useless...
the day it opened, I pushed with my prot warr mage tower with 150+ attempts beating it afterwards...
Then I went on my shitty geared Monk and 2 shotted the same "challenge" (1st attempt I rolled off the cliff)
Then I tryed Veng DH and did the same
Blood DK took me like 10
Bear was quite easy too at around 15
and last one I did prot pala that took me 50+
Also, Mage tower rewarded a cosmetic while Visions rewards gear and you can "customise" you run with masks
I hope Thorgast will have something like masks, less rng with madnesses and probably procedurally generated terrain like Diablo 3 rifts (might in turn ruin the whole thing so I'm cautious on that)
Yeah I did a 5 mask run today and it was painfully easy. Not even remotely as hard as it was last time I tried it. Guess my complaint is the game doesn't actually give you time to improve, but rather, it nerfs the content down to you. Like I missed the bandwagon to actually be challenged.
As I said before, this is why challenging content and limited attempts don't mix well together. Another point for Mage Towers.
If it's challenging and there isn't bullshit like Titanforging Explosive charges in a M+ dungeon then I can see this working out pretty well. Procedurally generated content has the innate challenge of the unknown which will make each dungeon a unique experience. There is a potential for frustration as well but this is a pretty good idea. I hope we see something like this.
Now try with Enhanc at 460 ilvl. I don't think it's hard but it's definitely harder for some specs more than others and it gets easier because people overgear it as well.
I think at the start of the visions you should have an option where you would have your item level fixed and only like that you would be able to get the FoS. But for that they would have to balance it by spec too which will never happen.
Also, you would be surprised how few % of people can do 5 masks.
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I prefer having a reason to do something after doing it once. Mage tower fights did not have that.
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If you choose to run zero to 3 masks in a group, that would be true. If you do solo 5mask runs as a non-warrior or some casters, its not.
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How is that a point for mage tower? Killing a joke boss once for a transmog wasnt challenging...
Well what a coincidence, I changed to enhanc a few weeks ago and I'm doing way better as enhanc, it's much easier. Not that it's a surprise, visions are a pain for casters in general.
I know, the % of people that can actually run 5 masks is pretty low, but let's not fool ourselves, the vast majority of players is extremely bad, you should never compare you with the average.
All solo dude. I was running duo with a friend in the beginning but he stopped doing visions for some time now. Currently I'm playing 8 toons:
-Enhanc shaman
-Prot Pally
-Brewmaster monk
-Fury warrior
-Frost Mage
-Destro lock
-Outlaw rogue
-Spriest
Since last week I've been doing 5 masks full clears with all toons without putting any effort at all. Even the alts I had no confidence were pretty easy, I should have tried 5 masks before with them. Heal food helps a lot as well.
Last edited by MakeMeLaugh; 2020-03-25 at 08:54 PM.
Yeah but there were 36 total mage towers. I only did it on 5 characters (so 15 total), but that took a while and gave me a reason to actually play and gear my alts with a goal in mind. I did visions because I felt obligated to for the power increase, but I won't ever return to them or do them on alts because I find them tedious and uninteresting.
it was challenging when all the good players got it, 2-3 weeks ago.
cape basically hard nerfs the visions. but eh, they made something that they know the low hanging fruit can get so
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the challenge of doing all 36 mage towers was leveling 12 toons to 110.
I only do assaults on my alts and main, that's like 3 assaults per toon, not that much to be honest.
They are all 460~470. And yes, brewmaster fucking sux if you don't have echoing void/twilight devastation or even twisted appendage, which I don't. It's the toon that takes the most time to complete a run.
i did mage tower after like 5-10 tries for each of my 3 specs, then that content was over.
only reason i didnt get all 3 done day one was because of the currency cost, yes each attempt did cost quite a grindy amount in the beginning, people seem to have forgotten that.
Last edited by mojusk; 2020-03-26 at 12:59 AM.