I only black this out because I feel like it might ruin the mystery for some people.
Yeah someone gave a reason its most definitely her even if the MCU was trying to be a little different in its approach. It would be lame if its not her at this point. The more I think about it the more it being one of the kids is ridiculous.
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It's actually hard to figure out even at the end what she wanted. It seems half like she considers her maybe an abomination to a degree by the way she's talking, but she never flat out says what her intentions are. Definitely correct that the only thing she definitely said is she wanted to know HOW.
Thanos wanted to murder half the planet to save the other half. That's the part you keep dropping.
His entire planet is dead now. His argument was that 50% dead > 100% dead.
I'm not saying you have to subscribe to the logic of his theory...but you have to at least understand that is what he believed.
“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
I don't think it's fair to call Agnes good or evil yet.
I think Agnes sees Wanda as a prodigy though, what Agnes does next depends on her motivations.
Fangirl Agnes - - The Scarlet Witch is a legend told amongst witches and Agnes is really just happy to be in the presence of Wanda. She will try to ally with Wanda. (unlikely).
Mentor Agnes - Agnes believes that Wanda needs to learn how to properly harness her magic, especially being a witch with a ton of potential. She will teach Wanda a lot more about her powers.
Warden Agnes - This Agnes is not evil but not Wanda's friend. She sees Wanda as too much of a threat to the world will try to 'neutralize' Wanda before Wanda even has a chance to go down a bad path. Worse, be used by a much more powerful entity.
Devil/Trickster/evil Agnes - This Agnes is in league with a certain someone or working for herself. Her goal is to trick Wanda into working for her, to somehow steal Wanda's powers, or to deliver Wanda to someone I think is brought up too much across the internet. I think it could be another guy who people completely forgot that starts with a K as well.
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Sort of like fox pietro. If he’s not fox pietro then it’s just dumb. No other reasoning will excuse it. You don’t cast that and expect fans to not feel completely betrayed, especially with talks of nexus and knowing that this phase is about the multiverse with wandavision taking fans down the rabbit hole and the rest of the movies exploring wonderland.
I feel like Agatha's approach towards Wanda up to this point makes all of these options seem unlikely.
In regards to Fangirlling...well, if that's the case she's gone full tilt into the "I'll murder your children if you don't tell me you love me" phase.
As for her teaching Wanda a lot about Magic....this part I do believe...but I don't think it will be entirely intentional and I don't believe she's going to do it for Wanda's sake.
And Agatha's had opportunities to neutralize Wanda and she hasn't taken them...she wants to know how she's doing it.
I'm more concerned that the "other guy" has a name that starts with a "C".Devil/Trickster/evil Agnes - This Agnes is in league with a certain someone or working for herself. Her goal is to trick Wanda into working for her, to somehow steal Wanda's powers, or to deliver Wanda to someone I think is brought up too much across the internet. I think it could be another guy who people completely forgot that starts with a K as well.
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“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
Before I begin, I'm genuinely curious: Are you physically incapable of admitting when you're wrong? It sure as hell seems so based on your posting history.
Yes, it is a contradiction. He was NOT "falling apart." He was literally being RIPPED apart. The Hex was pulling him back in, and he was fighting against it (something a corpse can't do, as an aside). He was begging SWORD to help the people while doing so (again, not something corpses are famous for), and THAT was killing him; resisting the pull of Wanda's magic. But he was completely functional, thinking, performing physical actions, and talking the whole time he was being torn apart, and THAT was what was killing him, not being outside the Hex. That's why Wanda had to expand it, because even she knew he would never give in until he actually died. Because, you know, he was fucking alive while it was happening. Which, yet again, is not something a corpse is: Alive.
I never said falling apart, that's you and your complete and utter lack of understanding both the scene and the English language as a whole."Falling apart" is not really analogous to "functioning".
It literally is.It literally is not. Where the hell did you get that?
Sure, I'll play your game of painful ignorance on your part.
From the examples in https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...lish/crumbling: She nervously crumbled the bread between her fingers and the cliffs on which the houses are built are starting to crumble
Note that neither of those examples include being ripped apart and pulled into a vortex, but lifelessly falling to the ground.
Main definition of the word as an intransitive verb from https://www.dictionary.com/browse/crumbling and https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crumbling AND https://www.thefreedictionary.com/crumbling: As an intransitive verb, "to FALL into pieces."
You do know what "fall" means in this context, right? Since clearly you don't it's not "being sucked into a vortex of magical energy" it's "fall lifelessly to the ground." (Notice a fucking trend yet?)
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Or the more likely answer if you paid attention to the opening scene, she's interested in either learning how Wanda is capable of doing this and/or stealing that power from her for herself (though it's unclear if that was a conscious or subconscious effort on her part).
Learning what the book is she has would help unlock the answer, I'm sure.
Agatha only said she possessed him (and it's "faux," by the way, not "fox"). I doubt she has the power to give someone a superpower, let alone superspeed, so it very well could be the X-Men Quicksilver still; she just twisted his mind in her favor and/or implanted false memory of that world's Piotr. Do note that faux can also mean "not genuine" not simply "fake," which fits here; he isn't the genuine Piotr Wanda knew, but that doesn't mean he's not a Piotr/Peter.
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Yet it was still alive, and she killed it. (She gave no indication that she could create life; that was why she's so interested in Wanda's chaos magic, because it can.)
Sure she can, it's super speed. With her magic it wouldn't be hard to fake especially if it was just for the sake of keeping up appearances. Besides magically manipulating a doll seems like it'd be easier than summoning someone from another universe and controlling him.
Why do y'all give a shit about semantics so much? Knock that shit off. It's boring as hell. Narratively, it doesn't matter if Vision is falling apart or being ripped apart.
The narrative focus is that he can't survive leaving the Hex, Wanda knows that because she created him, and she expands the Hex greatly to ensure he's safe.
Y'all arguing about definitions is like missing the forest for the trees. It's like y'all don't understand storytelling at all.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
Three undeniable reasons why Agnes is a villain:
1. She has a small white pet that she gently strokes while monologuing.
2. She killed a puppy
3. Disney gave her the best song
Tony and Captain America had no problem defying the government when they felt the government was not doing the right thing. Especially Captain America who had a built mistrust of the government and was a fugitive.
Let’s say Tony fell into a depression or isolation and that’s why he didn’t stop Heyward, Captain America however would never just leave Visions body. Captain America had no problem openly defying the government to rescue the Avengers from the government.
Anyways a majority of the Avengers did not care to oppose the government.
Or he came from Agatha's basement, as the Runes prevent the Hex to expand until there. So maybe anything that comes through generates the breach alarm.
Could very well be that when Wanda was trying to destroy the stone during IW, that established a connection between those two that allowed her to "store" part of Vision's consciousness inside her.
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Something that I am struggling with a bit... Did Wanda have any power before Hydra's experiences ? The scene where she "was going to use her powers" in Sokovia sounded like what Agatha thought happened, which was dismissed by Wanda who said "no need, the missile malfunctioned".
I'm extremely confused about Pietro too. I didn't really understand Agatha's explanation, it sounded like a complete creation out of nowhere, so the casting was like... just to confuse us, and that's disappointing.
I don't know what to expect for last episode though.
We have :
- Agatha who is trying to provoke another burst of power in Wanda to absorb it, probably. Kids will die ? No idea, probably not on Disney+ though.
- SWORD's Vision who will do what exactly ? Hayward has what he needs, will he risk sending Vision inside the Hex for.. what purpose exactly, except risking to lose him ?
- Wanda's Vision who is MIA since Episode 07 when he flew away through the roof of the van
- Monica who is completely MIA.
- Darcy who is MIA, is she still stuck on the road or what ?
That's a lot of stuff to wrap in 30 minutes. Even an hour sounds short.
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1.) Why is killing something evil but killing something isn't evil?
2.) That must have been one hell of an intelligent and clever insect, giving Sparky acted just like a dog. The only times it appears to have been manipulated is when it earned its name and when it ran away. Otherwise it acted just like a normal dog.
3.) You're assuming every aspect of this. Even during the Agatha All Along montage there was no indication that Agatha did this.
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No. But I'm guessing you're another Endus. Feel free to go back over her discussing the subject. She never said she created Piotr, only possessed him. She also made mention of being able to implant thoughts and personalities.
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Yes it does. It's a huge difference. He didn't die when he left the Hex. The Hex was killing him by dragging him back against his will, rather than him poofing into dust or dropping the second he left and reverting to the illusory Dead Vision that Agatha created to spook Wanda. Him surviving even a nanosecond outside of the Hex proves that he was fully re-created by Wanda, and not just an illusion she created as a figment of her imagination.
Also there's no indication that anything she's done so far is a mere illusion except changing her own appearance (which did disappear the second she left the Hex), but rather transformation/creation. Hence why everything remains in the new form when it leaves the Hex, rather than poofing back to normal when it leaves. Even for an instance or by so much as a Planck's length, you'll note.
Only if you don't know what the forest even is in the first place, oh great and powerful intellect who doesn't even know what he's complaining about.Y'all arguing about definitions is like missing the forest for the trees. It's like y'all don't understand storytelling at all.
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