If they are supposed to be void warriors, then we would probably have to look to the Twilight Vindicators for an example of a Void Knight. As a whole though, the Riftblades seem to be a rather muddied concept. The ones in Telogrus have mana, look rather paladin-ish, and lack abilities, while the one from the Island Expeditions looks more warrior-ish and has an odd mix of magic and warrior abilities, but wears paladin shoulders. Lorewise, I guess if a normal paladin is a warrior+holy priest hybrid, it stands to reason that a Void Knight is a warrior+shadow priest hybrid too.
Just try to read 1000 of Teriz posts , Hypocrite is his soulname and by now i almost dead inside after 1001 posts.
Its goes like "My class idea better than yours,NO u, my dad stronger than your dad, i am older than you thus i am SMARTER"
So any class idea can become a skin but not a great The Tinkerer.
Im glad you finally came around and saw the light. It was starting to concern me that you were just showing a bias towards your prefered class, but anyway, im just pleased you have seen sense. I agree with you that the druid is a perfect class for a Tinker skin - its all there - I mean the mech was always just a reskinned druid shapeshift, which is the core of all the more popular fan concepts i have seen.
Yeah, as odd of a choice it first seems, it actually makes quite a lot of sense once you really think about how the forms can all have a tech/mech counterpart, and how the Druid's gameplay is pretty flexible since it's always been a hybrid based on adapting Warrior gameplay for Tanking, Rogue gameplay for Feral.
So, the bow is a just a cosmetic?
If it'd be a bow user, then auto shot is pretty important.
What is a Void-Knight, lore-wise?
Forsaken Paladins would use the Light.
They are the Warrior representation of the race.
NPCs don't usually use other resources.
I thought the idea was self-explanatory? It's a melee fighter who uses void magic to empower themselves, like a paladin empower themselves through holy magic.
Forsaken feel intense pain when channeling the Light, hence why there are no forsaken paladins and so few forsaken priests that aren't shadow priests.Forsaken Paladins would use the Light.
Considering we're talking about Class Skins, I don't think it would be anything but cosmetic. We're not talking about altering gameplay here, it's literally just adapting visuals.
If we're talking about adapting visuals to a caster class that has Wands for the sake of having access to Holy Healing abilities to represent that aspect of a POTM, then a bow visual can help complete that tie-in for Night Elf Priests, making a full visual jump. Kinda like how Mages could get the Verdant Spheres from their Artifact weapon, cept we're talking about Class Skin customization instead of 'borrowed power'.
I mean ideally they could make Bows accessable to Priests too, but I don't see the need if all they really have to do is open up specific transmogs just for the sake of customization and identity, even if they don't really use em.
Look at Druid. You can get whatever weapons they have and use. Yet do Druids EVER use their weapons? Never. Every Druid spec does not use their weapon at all.
Or even Spellcasters for the longest time, you never had the ability to spell-cast with your staff out, you just keep it on your back while you wave your arms. I don't know if they've added Staff-based spellcasting anims in current WoW, but I remember that being highly demanded, since there's little point to having a weapon when you always stash it away when you spellcast. So the option of being a 'battle mage' or a 'Druid who can handle themselves in Humanoid form' is mostly RP flavour rather than gameplay.
The key component here is having access to the visual to represent the class. So Mages have Staves and spellcaster Swords and that still looks cool while standing around, even if they never actually use the damn things in battle. Druids have maces, staves, claws and daggers that they never use, even though it's cool to have em. So would a Night Elf Priest with a bow, to cover some of the POTM visual flavour that the Priest class doesn't really have access to.
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When they're given mana bars, it usually indicates that they're tied to spellcasting somehow. If they were Warrior representations, they wouldn't have a mana bar at all, just like all the other Warrior type NPCs.
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Read carefully.
Lore-wise.
1. Cult of the Forgotten Shadows preaches about the importance of balancing Light and Shadow.Forsaken feel intense pain when channeling the Light, hence why there are no forsaken paladins and so few forsaken priests that aren't shadow priests.
2. There is a Holy Forsaken Paladin in Hearthstone.
3. Calia is an Undead infused by the Light.
So, a PotM, or a Night Warrior, would have a bow on its back without any use?
That would be like Death Knights with cosmetic-only Runeblades or Demon Hunters with cosmetic-only Warglaives.
Why? It's just a mechanic. Hunters fire more arrows. This class would be more inclined to focus magic through the bow.
The 'paladin' in this case is just using Paladin as the base for a Class Skin. It wouldn't actually be a Paladin.Forsaken Paladins would use the Light.
Look at my comment to Triceron.
That would be the equivalent of not giving Dark Rangers a bow.
Look at my comment to lelenia.The 'paladin' in this case is just using Paladin as the base for a Class Skin. It wouldn't actually be a Paladin.
Lore-wise, there is no justification for your suggestions.
You answered it for me in your next sentence.
1. Your argument actually strengthens mine, as the Cult of Forgotten Shadows actually preaches that the use of Shadow (Void) is necessary as well. It's not about practicing both Light and Shadow at the same time.1. Cult of the Forgotten Shadows preaches about the importance of balancing Light and Shadow.
2. There is a Holy Forsaken Paladin in Hearthstone.
3. Calia is an Undead infused by the Light.
2. Hearthstone also has Ragnaros as an elemental of the Light. Hearthstone is not WoW.
3. Calia is not your average forsaken. She is a special case. As far as we know, the only one of her "kind".
No. It preaches the use of void magic without losing yourself to it. Perfect for void knights.
A void knight, in the lore, is a knight who empowers themselves with the magic of the Void, similarly how a paladin empowers themselves with the Light. If that doesn't answer your question, make it more specific.and it still doesn't answer what a Void Knight is in lore.
Again, why? Not everyone uses equipment the same way. One class fires a ton of arrows. That's their thing. Another class uses their bow differently. As a conduit for magic. A way to cast devastating spells or healing magic.
Okay? Create the lore. Why not? Lore comes from somewhere. Void wasn't a thing. Then it was. They created that. If they want to create a dude that uses the Void in melee combat or what not, do it. Stuff gets created all the time.Look at my comment to lelenia.
Lore-wise, there is no justification for your suggestions.
Let's not do mental gymnastics to try and debunk what is very clearly what happened. Yes I'm still salty about it because it was the most fun I had playing as demo with meta just immolation auraing it up power leveling friends.
Now I'm forced to play as an elf if I want that playstyle but even that doesn't work since I enjoy range classes as tanking becomes crotch watching and melee have to dance to avoid death more than a Russian ballerina.
Fact is - they took meta and turned it into a bastardized version of lock tanking and a rogue with glide. What their intentions were dont matter, that's what happened.
Either case, I'm not going to play WoW with them constantly gutting classes and specs of what made them unique.
Especially since to make a 'new' class they based it around another classes toolkit that was removed for 'unknown' reasons.
That ambiguity somehow make you feel better about your life? Does it change that warlocks lost an ability that another class was designed around?
What you're arguing is semantics and just plain dumb.