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I can't wait to do some battlegrounds wearing this:
I'm 100% sure this outfit will trigger some people!
Except it's not core Alliance territory (or well Loch Modan is, but it is dwarven territory), it's not the night elven homeland and it is a continent away.
That'd be like saying it'll make sense for the Frostwolves, Forsaken or blood elves to just up and abandon their homes and move to Kalimdor.
Most of Hillsbrad Foothills is still Forsaken territory as is around half of Silverpine Forest, the WPL and Tirisfal are basicly 100% Forsaken territory.
It is!
Maybe, maybe not :shrug: Lots of old quests aren't canon either anymore!
Seeing as the only other places are druidic holy lands or entirely fel-corrupted, it's the only one that makes sense. You forget that these lands were once a part of the Night Elf empire thousands of years ago.
Silverpine and around half of Tirisfal are Alliance territory as a result of the Alliance retaking Gilneas, and attacking Capital City in BFA prepatch. your point about Hillsbrad is valid though, so I'll amend my statement: WPL, Eastern Tirisfal, and Hillsbrad are the only remaining core territories for the Forsaken.Most of Hillsbrad Foothills is still Forsaken territory as is around half of Silverpine Forest, the WPL and Tirisfal are basicly 100% Forsaken territory.
Mission Tables are the one thing that were never canon to be featured as a "major" expansion feature. Sure, you sending people on missions is canon, but the actual missions featured within the tables are not.Maybe, maybe not :shrug: Lots of old quests aren't canon either anymore!
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*The Wrynns and their Elven bitches* Valeera is a Belf.
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The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!
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The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!
I make Warcraft 3 Reforged HD custom models and I'm also an HD model reviewer.
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They should give velves the worgen treatment. Two forms one void one not. You're able to custom both and able to be out of combat as either. But in combat you go void. I think that's the best compromise that wouldn't crap on the velve's VOID identity and still keep you helfers happy.
Also I've been thinking about my stance on race/class combos and honestly to pull the ripcords on race restriction and come up with w/e crazy lore to justify it.
My biggest gripe against that was maghar locks and DH's. But then I realized that belf locks can have light eyes so maybe blizz could spin it so that maghar locks meditate hard to not succumb to fel corruption and maghar DH could be the only DH without visible demonic corruption and instead something else to further emphasize their iron will.
So there, somehow make velf pallies to SOMEHOW not implode on themselves.
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The night elves (again) control Darkshore, Ashenvale, have settled in Hyjal, and the Emerald Circle is in the process of restoring Felwood and the night elves have already proven that as weakened as they are, the Cenarion Circle still has to follow what they want. (As they couldn't oppose the Army of the Black Moon settling in Hyjal).
You do know the Forsaken still control Tirisfal from west to east, right? They control the entry points, they still have Deathknell, Calston Estate and Cold Heart Manor in the west!
I'll fight you, Blizzard and God for this darnit!
Alleria Windrunner is a void elf.
Valeera Sanguiner is a blood elf.
Vereesa Windrunner is a high elf, tho.
The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!
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Well, undead usually burned when exposed to the Light, yet we've seen several Undead using the Light, most recently Calia Menethil.
As for paladin class, tauren and zandalari are not in fact "real" paladins either. Tauren are sunwalkers, basicaly druids focusing on Light of An'she, who took more militant approach. Zandalari are prelates and they draw their power from Loa, not from the Holy Light or Naaru.
Considering this, Void elf paladins could be similar case, being basicaly "Dark paladin" archetype. They could come back to original Blood Knight concept of bending the Light to their will, possibly with the connection the the Naaru cycle of Light and Void. I can certainly imagine story where Void elves find dying Naaru somewhere in Telogrus and began to use it as a source of their power.
Only thing that matters is if Blizzard will ever want to add Void elf paladins or not. There is lore which can make it possible. Now, I'm not super interested in that option (I'd rather see night elf and kul tiran paladins first), but I'm not saying it's impossible.
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Calia is not a regular vanilla undead and was raised by the light. Regular Undead priests channel light, causing them great pain, but they're not imbued with it like a paladin is.
Also tauren and zanda are both paladins. Just a different flavor. Like how blood knights are a different flavor. If sunwalkers weren't paladins then they'd be chilling with druids in their order hall and not be contributing to the paladin's forces in legion.
They all use light, despite drawing from different forces.
Velves using light the same way a paladin does is like ragnaros using water magic
Lore that would justify velves would have to be outlandish.
Similarly, void elves could feel great pain while using Light. Void elves exploding or imploding when trying Light is just headcanon, we actually never seen that. Also, we have seen Lightforged (a beings imbued with the Light) being raised as Death Knights. Light and undeath were always strongly opposite, basicaly Light burning down undead effectively. We've not yet seen such effect of the Light on Void based beings. In fact, it appears there is a connection between Light and Void as confirmed in Naaru's lifecycle. Also, Xal'atath calls Naaru beloved siblings when you enter Netherlight Temple. It's not that outlandish.
Sunwalkers were born of a druidic sect which decided to fully embrace Sun to complement traditional Lunar based elven teachings and set balance in the Order. So yes, they are different flavor of a paladin. The point is that they approach Light differently (by more druidic approach), so there is a precedent for Void elves to use Light differently too.
The lore is trash, anyway, might as well go all the way. I'd like to see magh'ar orc paladins, there's at least some lore to justify it, as some of them did convert to light-worship.
See, I hear you. But the duality of light and void is more of a priest gimmick. Paladin are all about the light and light only. Undead/velf priests only feel pain and not implode since they only channel the light.
As for LFD, DK's are a special kind of undead. I would assume they're a similar case to calia, between being light forged and a DK.
Yeah sure blizz could use the priest gimmick and apply it to velf pallies somehow but theirs a difference between a mortal channeling light and void in harmony and then being of being of pure void becoming imbued with light. But who knows what they can come up with.
It's just outlandish based on current lore.
Yes, the most important part of your argument is current lore. I agree to make them work, they'd need to explain it properly, but there are already hooks to make it happen. If Calia and LFD DKs can be special kinds of undead, why could not be void elf paladins special kind as well? Other option is that void elf paladins would be one of the sugggest class skin, using void animations and being paladin only through gameplay, but they'd use void instead of Light canonicaly.
On the other hand, I think there are more interesting race/class combinations. Paladins are not crucial part of high elf identity either, so I don't feel that void elves/high elves are incomplete without the class. I personaly would prefer void elf shamans as kind of dark shamans and exploring connection between Void and Elements (we know that elements were enslaved by the Void back before).