Yes they were. Wrath heroics were always a joke from the start. Only real sorta rough one for a bit was one of the spider ones cause the dps check could be tight with low gear on i forget which boss its been over a decade. They were faceroll from the start and just achievement hunting adventures. If anyone thinks heroics are going to be a challenge from the git go they are going to be in for a rude awakening.
This is such a dumb conversation. First and foremost you have no clue how many people are playing classic wow. 500,000 is a complete guess. It could be millions for all you know. And secondly, why are you so obsessed with the % of players who come back? That is such an asinine thing to say. Idc if a game had 500 million players 15 years ago. If it still has 500,000 that means the game has proven to be an amazing game. The % of players still playing has nothing to do with it. If a game back in 2000 has 15 players and it still had 15 players today the game still sucks.
Umm there Iron forge and that other site had guesses which is more than blizz will give out since they like to use market buzz words now and not numbers., still trying to get me impressed over nothing? (well the only part I'm impressed with now is how out of 11 mill is could only manage pull in just over 200000 till they announced LK. impressed with how bad it did is still impressed I guess looks like Classic out populated BC classic which is odd seeing that's not what happened the first time )
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it's not hard to get a good estimate, there are add-ons that people have loaded and and tracking achievements and the ones from ironforge numbers don't seem too far off, watching my friend playing on westfall even during prime times could not max the who list at times horde side).
*for both of you I responded too if BC classic was so popular why are they not keeping any BC servers going after LK launches. (answer for WOW's benchmark of success it would seem it's not worth the $$ to keep them going.)
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Luckily yes
But they will most likely implement it later on, probably around TotGC.
If you’re using ironforge pro for actual guesses on a full population of who plays WoW then you’re an actual moron. That only tracks people who are at end level and doing end level content and having it logged.
Idgaf if you’re impressed or not, you don’t seem like a smart enough person for me to even care remotely about your subjective opinion
you got better numbers? I've seen server first hand how it's numbers seem to aline, when THAT LOW it's not hard to confirm them on some servers, but I guess you if you can't count to 50 it might be a bit much for you since you can't use your fingers and toes. *if I log on to a server\faction that it says is dead and do a who and don't max out the list on that server (50 I believe it tells me there is something behind their numbers).
perfect no but between it and the other site you don't like they seem not to be far off and you have any others to say different
AND WHERE ARE THOSE PERMANENT BC SERVERS IF IT"S DOING SOOOO GOOD
Your the one seem to go on and on and on how I should be impressed...
Impressed they can't be bothered to keep just one BC PVE and PVP server up......
***even if the number were way off they should be off by the same amount all the way one would think, and seeing ad BC classic launched in June 21 seems reg classic did better https://mmo-population.com/r/classicwow/stats (even if the numbers were wrong why would the BC wrong ones be lower than the Classic wrong ones?)
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Also this: in WotLK a massive amount of people (me included) absolutely hated the addition of the dungeon finder because of how it helped damage the feeling of the server community, it's super odd to see classic champs be so angry about it not being in wotlk classic when it's a guarantee that many of them (if they actually played at the time) would have been vocal against it when it was implemented in 3.3.
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First hand account of 50 players? So you’re going on dead ass servers and hand counting people and saying that this must reflect the overall population, you’re dumber than I thought if you’re actually going to use your first hand experience and then guesstimate that a number as big as 500,000 is accurate as if anyone has to perception to even imagine that number across multiple realms on multiple regions.
And I never said I had better numbers because I’m not dumb enough to claim that I even remotely know what the sub numbers are. Just because you’re dumb enough to do just that and come up with a random number in your head doesn’t mean that it is a good number.
If that's the case then they wouldn't start with the last patch, would they? it was in during the last patch, so it should be in now. Give people the CHOICE, if there's so many people who are against it, they can just group up then, right? should have no issue finding a group for those people.
If their numbers give a idea how the server is doing and be right they don't seem too far off, you're the one that thinks it random it's based off something (exact no, but I don't think miles off) if it can tell you what servers are dead and what faction on what servers are dead and be correct those numbers came from somewhere.
So again if it's SOooooooOooooo impressive why can't they justify keeping any BC servers running.... they should just throw it away if it was successful.
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Suppose the mega servers had no issues taking all the people from all these closed servers and no ones left right? or is Iron forges list of 0 population server also made up? those mega servers must be massive to take all those from these closed servers and nothing to do with tanked subs.
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Kirtonos
Blaumeux
Heartseeker
Herod
Kurinnaxx
Bigglesworth
Rattlegore
Incendius
Arcanite Reaper
Netherwind
Smolderweb
Stalagg
Thunderfury
Thalnos
Skeram
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Shazzrah
Kromcrush
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Judgement
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Think they would have few to CPU cycles to spare to keep a BC one running if they though it had any $$ in it.
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Yes your numbers are random because you’re missing a giant portion of the population who isn’t being tracked which is the casual population. You have absolutely no idea how big that number is. So yes saying it’s at 500,000 is nothing but random I could say the population is 2 million based off that number and guessing the remainder casual population is making up the number and be just as accurate as you are, which isn’t accurate at all. I honestly don’t even think you understand this even remotely.
And once again idgaf if you’re impressed or not lol
random - made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision.
there you go since you don't seem to understand the definition of random, it's base off PVP and PVE stats *also looks like some add-ons track too, ya it's going to miss some (very very very casuals) but that means they would have to almost had 0 achievements in everything (I've gotten some PVE ones by accident), or they had not played or grouped with anyone with any of those add-on ever, but not just something they pulled out of their ass which would be random.
you seem to whine a lot how I should be (IE: keep going on and on how I should look at this or "other" old others MMO are doing (OR FPS LOL) or look how many people prob play on what number you think is random) , for someone that does not care if I am... and you still won't answer if BC was just a hint of being successful why no BC era classic servers are staying up?
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