Will there be any pro-store-mount players on the Community Council?

[Amnaught]

What do you think? Is there anyone playing the game who legitimately had the opinion of "this game **should** have $25 mounts every now and then that sometimes get removed from the store for manufactured FOMO"?

I mean opposed to the apathetic players, who are simply unbothered by it and think the anti-store players are whiners.

What would a pro-store-mount thread even look like?

Because the only way I can see this going is a well thought out anti-store post with a bunch of "sense of pride and accomplishment" replies from Blizzard devs.

[Darkeon]

Of course, the prime type of player to be in the council is also the type of player that, at best, is neutral about them and is more than happy to collect horses and boars.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

The people who are going to get on the community council will probably be youtubers and streamers. Most of WoW's youtubers and streamers were old timers who remember the era before horse armor DLC and despise having to pay $25 for a mount that should have been able to have been earned in a game that they already paid for and have to pay a $15 fee for. However, by this point most of the oldtimer content creators have been alienated by WoW or have died: TotalBiscuit, towelliee, Swifty, Mute, Preach, etc. At this point, the only prominent streamers and youtubers left are... what? Bellular and Asmongold? And they're of the newer generation that grew up with horse armor dlc being the norm and I haven't heard them express their distaste for the cash shop. So yes, we'll probably see people who are pro-cash shop, or not opposed to it. Not that it matters because even if someone did get on board who voiced their distaste of it, it's not like they would be listened to.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

The majority of players seem fine with it given that they keep putting more out and people
Keep buying them so it seems likely there will be some unless the council fails to actually grab the attention of most players and just gets the normal vocal forum types.

[starstationprofm]

The people who are going to get on the community council will probably be youtubers and streamers. Most of WoW's youtubers and streamers were old timers who remember the era before horse armor DLC and despise having to pay $25 for a mount that should have been able to have been earned in a game that they already paid for and have to pay a $15 fee for. However, by this point most of the oldtimer content creators have been alienated by WoW or have died: TotalBiscuit, towelliee, Swifty, Mute, Preach, etc. At this point, the only prominent streamers and youtubers left are... what? Bellular and Asmongold? And they're of the newer generation that grew up with horse armor dlc being the norm and I haven't heard them express their distaste for the cash shop. So yes, we'll probably see people who are pro-cash shop, or not opposed to it. Not that it matters because even if someone did get on board who voiced their distaste of it, it's not like they would be listened to.

Asmongold hates the cash shop.

What I don't get is why all these streamers and the 80 IQ drones in the YT section act like these cash shop items are unobtainable for the regular player when reality is that you can farm gold and buy anything in the cash shop with Blizzard Dollars that you can earn by using said gold to buy a token.

Their argument is

" They don't make content for the player. Instead, they put it in the cash shop. "

Which is outright false as it implies normal players can't get those items without paying $$.

If their argument was

" Cash shop bad, $ to ingame benefits bad " I'd happily be on their side.

[FelPlague]

Asmongold hates the cash shop.

What I don't get is why all these streamers and the 80 IQ drones in the YT section act like these cash shop items are unobtainable for the regular player when reality is that you can farm gold and buy anything in the cash shop with Blizzard Dollars that you can earn by using said gold to buy a token.

Their argument is

" They don't make content for the player. Instead, they put it in the cash shop. "

Which is outright false as it implies normal players can't get those items without paying $$.

If their argument was

" Cash shop bad, $ to ingame benefits bad " I'd happily be on their side.

Blizzard puts mount on store that can be bought with gold or cash
'WTF BLIZZ YOU SHOULDA PUT THIS IN THE GAME WHERE WE COULD EARN IT!"
Blizzard puts mount on vendor that can be bought with gold or cash
'YES BLIZZ THIS MOUNT IS AMAZING!"

[starstationprofm]

Blizzard puts mount on store that can be bought with gold or cash
'WTF BLIZZ YOU SHOULDA PUT THIS IN THE GAME WHERE WE COULD EARN IT!"
Blizzard puts mount on vendor that can be bought with gold or cash
'YES BLIZZ THIS MOUNT IS AMAZING!"

Pretty much. Being anti cash shop is fine... but at least... do it in a way that makes sense.

[FelPlague]

Pretty much. Being anti cash shop is fine... but at least... do it in a way that makes sense.

like i love how people scream about the store mounts ,especialy the ones that are given free to many players.
but then praise stuff like the brutosaur, the spider, the lightforged warframe, and more.

[starstationprofm]

like i love how people scream about the store mounts ,especialy the ones that are given free to many players.
but then praise stuff like the brutosaur, the spider, the lightforged warframe, and more.

Yeah lmao the Brutosaur was the cost of 20 subs.

[Julmara]

more pretty shop mounts please need a way to spend my gold

[Amnaught]

Blizzard puts mount on store that can be bought with gold or cash
'WTF BLIZZ YOU SHOULDA PUT THIS IN THE GAME WHERE WE COULD EARN IT!"
Blizzard puts mount on vendor that can be bought with gold or cash
'YES BLIZZ THIS MOUNT IS AMAZING!"

But like

Literally yes

I don't want to have to break my fantasy to enter a USD store to buy something for my game characters. Feels gross.

And you can earn gold in game -- if Store Mounts are "bought" with gold, someone still paid the $40 for the $30 Blizz store credit.

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more pretty shop mounts please need a way to spend my gold

Is there any reason to not put them on a vendor like the frog mounts instead? Aside from wanting to give Blizz more money on top of the $50 semi-annual expansion and $15 monthly fee?

[Lolites]

like i love how people scream about the store mounts ,especialy the ones that are given free to many players.
but then praise stuff like the brutosaur, the spider, the lightforged warframe, and more.

white direhorn is my "favourite", 500k for mount that is ugly recolor of mounts available easier and for years, and somehow thats ok, but unique model on shop that is technicaly cheaper? outrageous!!

[Julmara]

Is there any reason to not put them on a vendor like the frog mounts instead? Aside from wanting to give Blizz more money on top of the $50 semi-annual expansion and $15 monthly fee?

no its all about the money like you sayd

[MrLachyG]

probably? there should be a wide variety of people, that includes people who buy store mounts

[Lady Atia]

probably? there should be a wide variety of people, that includes people who buy store mounts

This - and I doubt they want to give the local minority who hates on everything including store mounts a voice there lol. Besides that, store mounts have nothing to do with the community council imho - they aren't even content lmao.

[Lochton]

What do you think? Is there anyone playing the game who legitimately had the opinion of "this game **should** have $25 mounts every now and then that sometimes get removed from the store for manufactured FOMO"?

I mean opposed to the apathetic players, who are simply unbothered by it and think the anti-store players are whiners.

What would a pro-store-mount thread even look like?

Because the only way I can see this going is a well thought out anti-store post with a bunch of "sense of pride and accomplishment" replies from Blizzard devs.

Hopefully, no one with FOMO problems is going to be on the council. If they have FOMO problems, then they should seek help instead.

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probably? there should be a wide variety of people, that includes people who buy store mounts

Indeed. The council should be as mixed as possible.

[Zers Editor]

Asmongold hates the cash shop.

What I don't get is why all these streamers and the 80 IQ drones in the YT section act like these cash shop items are unobtainable for the regular player when reality is that you can farm gold and buy anything in the cash shop with Blizzard Dollars that you can earn by using said gold to buy a token.

Their argument is

" They don't make content for the player. Instead, they put it in the cash shop. "

Which is outright false as it implies normal players can't get those items without paying $$.

If their argument was

" Cash shop bad, $ to ingame benefits bad " I'd happily be on their side.

Would be cool for someone to suggest making gold farming more entertaining and less like a busywork.

[MrLachyG]

Blizzard puts mount on store that can be bought with gold or cash
'WTF BLIZZ YOU SHOULDA PUT THIS IN THE GAME WHERE WE COULD EARN IT!"
Blizzard puts mount on vendor that can be bought with gold or cash
'YES BLIZZ THIS MOUNT IS AMAZING!"

plus it's not like the store mounts are the only cool or new mounts in the game. every expansion has added unique mounts; some of my favourite mounts are ones from vendors or achievements. The frog mounts, the bee mount, the hand mounts, the Long Boi among others

[Amnaught]

probably? there should be a wide variety of people, that includes people who buy store mounts

This post isnt about people who buy store mounts. It's about people who think that having them on the cash shop is *better* than having them on a vendor in game, or achievement reward, or any other fantasy method of obtaining them.

I remain convinced that the people who support store mounts are under a similar misunderstanding of the difference between a $25 cash mount and a 1,000,000 gold vendor mount.

If you buy the spider mount, you could have possibly earned all of that gold in the game.

If you buy the glowy cat mount, **someone** spent cash for it, by necessity. There is no way for that mount to come into the game without someone shelling out more money than they should have to, and there is no way that the person who bought it even did so in a roleplaying manner -- it was in a USD cash shop window.

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Yeah lmao the Brutosaur was the cost of 20 subs.

You can buy the brutosaur by playing the game. If you have the celestial steed, maybe you earned the gold in game, but *somebody* shelled out for the tokens you used.

[FelPlague]

You can buy the brutosaur by playing the game. If you have the celestial steed, maybe you earned the gold in game, but *somebody* shelled out for the tokens you used.

You can buy the celestial steed by playing the game. If you have the brutosaur, maybe you earned the gold in game on the AH, but *somebody* shelled out for the tokens used to buy those goods.

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But like

Literally yes

I don't want to have to break my fantasy to enter a USD store to buy something for my game characters. Feels gross.

And you can earn gold in game -- if Store Mounts are "bought" with gold, someone still paid the $40 for the $30 Blizz store credit.

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Is there any reason to not put them on a vendor like the frog mounts instead? Aside from wanting to give Blizz more money on top of the $50 semi-annual expansion and $15 monthly fee?

"break my fantasy" lolol seriously? and if you buy a mount using gold, someone still paid for that gold at some point be it directly to buy your item off the AH or the person who bought it made the gold selling something a person bought using gold they got with the token.