Hehe, i think you're looking too much at the statistical numbers and not at real life performance. Most 80GB drives will perform close to the larger size equivalents at common (random) reads and writes; the difference is there naturally - but its not enough to make 'the difference' to speak. You still reduce the critical seek time from 7-13ms to sub 0.1ms. From ~200 IOPS to tens of thousands.
It's much more than a slight performance boost though. Most SSDs are at least 3 to 4 times faster than the fastest SATA hard drives currently. They are kinda of expensive, but you can always buy a smaller SSD to only install your OS and most used applications on. If you don't have a high end system already you're right in that you're better off spending money on other performance increases that you'll see more of a gain on for your buck.
You're missing one very important point with SSDs. It does not just speed up booting Windows, but it speeds up everything you do inside windows from facebook to porn to ripping MP3s from CDs. Most of the speed-ups comes from caching of system files, and it's very noticeable difference.
Also your price guesstimate is way off the mark. 120GB SSD with Sandforce controller costs bit over $200, and is plenty for everything else except storing 2TB of midget porn. I don't really see how you could blow $400 on it unless you're looking at the cost of Apple Store upgrades from HDD to SSD.
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My SSD made more of a noticeable difference than overclocking my CPU to 4.8 or 5.1GHz. They are an amazing little piece of hardware that brings life to EVERYTHING in the OS. In anything you do you will notice the speed increase of how snappy things open, close, encode, etc. You can get a 128GB PCI-E SSD now for $290 and get 500MB/s which is 5x that of normal hard drives.
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I get what you are saying and I'm not against them at all
I'm just saying for me If I have a car that does 12 sec 1/4 miles I don't need to spend xtra money to see 11 sec 1/4 miles.... that's all im saying. Now when I build a new PC I may go with an SSD - HDD combo when prices drop and performance increase more. That's all im saying and from what the OP was saying it seemed like he had a Macbook already and wanted to upgrade it to the SSD which is about $400 give or take from what I understand.
Ok I'll play along.
Anyone that wants to be competitive in the 1/4 mile knows how big of a difference 11 seconds and 12 seconds is...we're talking a "sport" that is measured down to the hundredth of a second. Your analogy fails. Your arguments against SSD's are not valid. You are however, allowed your own opinions, regardless of how misguided or misinformed they may be.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227611 Far from $400
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Is having a slightly faster PC a sport? Holy shit i didn't know that i mean I could see if I was doing arenas for money but just doing stuff at home I guess
Also when did I say SSD suck?? I didn't.... did I? No i think i said I would consider it down the road when i build a new PC but since my PC now is fast enough for what I do.. and it's plenty fast I guess saving hell I'll say $100 to buy other things i want is unwarranted and causes everyone such heartache
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You don't buy them because they are good performance/money.
You don't buy so huge SSDs to store things on.
You buy them because you don't want to wait, and think the time wasted, staring at the screen where nothing happens, is one hell of a big of an annoyance.
Trust me, have everything on your SSDs, then completely transfer everything onto them onto a fresh 7200 RPM-drive. You *will* feel the difference and hate it afterwards.
Well I actually still have for instance my alt/auctionhouse client on my normal raid consisting of a couple cheap samsung 1tb drives and while of course the loading times are longer the additional couple seconds don't really concern me. For all other programs I usually just start them once after the boot and don't close them till I switch it off so...of course again I see their use but I still think that they are kinda overrated. Booting windows of course is really fun but it's also a bad habbit - I sometimes just reboot because I am bored and want to see how fast it goes.
Hm, are SSDs really worth it, from a speed to price perspective? I mean how fast do you really need things to be before it's overkill? :P I bought a slightly more expensive 10k RPM HDD with 300GB on it for my OS games and such, and a cheapy HDD for storage. My only complaint about the 10k is that it sounds like a jet engine, but I've gotten used to it. That seemed a little bit more bang for my buck than an expensive SSD with very limited space. I'd like to give an SSD a go when they go down in price... But it seems like you'll always need a HDD for storage.
I don't know a whole lot about this kind of stuff though!
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It can vary based on what you're doing. If you run alot of programs, especially ones that do alot of random reads/writes on the drives, you'll notice it.
Even Velociraptors can't get anywhere near an SSD in IOPS.
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I remember reading an article talking about SSD limited writes. The guy who was testing it basically said he (as a power user) Writes 7GB/Day. With his 200GB SSD, and 10000 writes, it would take him 10-15 years before he started showing performance degradation. Since most people upgrade after 2-3 years, there is no reason to worry at all.