Indeed the system of support is not a sound one and does not line up with the goals of society(producing stable families who raise stable children who then lead productive lives). There are several "couples" in my place of employment who are not married, who will never be married, because they can both claim their children as dependents but file as individuals, gaining them more support and money from the system.
Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.
Just, be kind.
Welfare is an even number based on population, so the higher the population the higher number of welfare recipients although the percentage is about even based on population.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...are-table.html
However State Aid covers a lot of different things to include Hi-ways, Farm subsidies, and a large host of social programs. States like California can pay for them selves but many Red States need federal aid to pay for what they have. The point is that the Red states claim welfare costs the country too much but then take more money from the government than the blue states. It's the hypocrisy that people in the blue states are pointing out.
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lol, you really do not understand economics, a basic state budget in today's world is 1/3rd law enforcement and incarceration. 1/3 maintain infrastructure, and 1/3 divided evenly to emergency service, social programs, and state government. All states fallow essentially the same budget design.
Chad, I think's it been proven to be abundantly clear that you're not interested in providing concrete positions backed up by reputable sources.
Good, good. The Deus Ex storyline becomes reality more each passing day.
Well the "devil is in the details," so to speak. I have little confidence in the proclamations from either side of the aisle. Because they both have many reasons to exaggerate and fabricate. I'm 41 years old and I've been quite wealthy as well as dirt poor. I've lived in condos and I've lived on the street. I've lived in various places, from Washington to Georgia and from Texas to Minnesota. The largess you and some others imply is somehow the norm? I've never witnessed.
Now I have read and heard of people working the angles, so to speak, to maximize their benefits. Like min-maxers in a mumorpuger. I've also read and heard of folks who were outright engaged in fraud to get a lot more than they should have. However, I have seen people that the various safety net programs saved from not only a loss of nutrition and shelter. But also a loss of hope and lost potential for a better future.
I've also learned what happens to regimes that do not care enough for their populace. Even the relatively minor percentage that may honestly delude themselves into thinking that they are inherently owed something, or believe everything is anyone's fault but their own, matters. We have learned, at great cost, what happens when we place ourselves to far above our fellow man. If we do not care about them. Then they will have little to no reason to care about us.
If the price we must pay to help as many as we can with food, medicine, and hope, when they need it. Especially for the children. Is for those selfish enough to place themselves above their fellow man, sometimes taking advantage of it? Then that is a price I have, and will, continue to help pay. The world has changed and will continue too. As FDR once put it:
So, it is less a matter of whether I think it is fair or not and more a matter of whether I think helping my fellow man is right or not. Does that answer your question?Security was attained in the earlier days through the interdependence of members of families upon each other and of the families within a small community upon each other. The complexities of great communities and of organized industry make less real these simple means of security. Therefore, we are compelled to employ the active interest of the Nation as a whole through government in order to encourage a greater security for each individual who composes it... This seeking for a greater measure of welfare and happiness does not indicate a change in values. It is rather a return to values lost in the course of our economic development and expansion...
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Sir Robin, the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot.
Who had nearly fought the Dragon of Angnor.
Who had almost stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol.
And who had personally wet himself, at the Battle of Badon Hill.
Its not realistic and not going to happen. People that are signing the petition with hopes or beliefs that it will happen are naive. It is more symbolic. People are angry and are reaching out to the government to react in the most direct way they can, they want answers. It makes them feel like their voices are heard, no big deal.
What is really sad is there are some very important issues being petitioned which will most likely be overshadowed by these.
And as far as I know the biggest response to a petition given by the White House was about the White House brew recipe....yeah, really good job there guys.
Thats a good point but in all fairness, from my experience, most blue states have higher local and sin (thinking NY and Cali here) taxes as well as toll roads, which most Red States do not have. Personally I view that as punishing their working class, mostly middle class population; especially toll roads. Think about it, who has to travel everyday? People getting back and forth to work? Same for taxes, those receiving "assistance" don't pay taxes on assisted goods like food, who does? Middle class working America right? Kinda Ironic, IMO which states are the Blue (for the working class) states and which ones are Red (for the top 2%); talk about hypocrisy.However State Aid covers a lot of different things to include Hi-ways, Farm subsidies, and a large host of social programs. States like California can pay for them selves but many Red States need federal aid to pay for what they have. The point is that the Red states claim welfare costs the country too much but then take more money from the government than the blue states. It's the hypocrisy that people in the blue states are pointing out.[COLOR="red"]
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We Petition the Obama Administration To...require any musical arrangement with a cowbell instrument must increase the intensity of cowbell by at least 25%
What do you guys think?