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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by hk-51 View Post
    Most recently? The pushed Swtor out 6 months ahead of what Bioware wanted and then fired all the higher ups and talented people at bioware and replaced them with people from mythic.
    Also, Simcity watches you watch porn.
    lets not forget milking swtor and turning it into the turd that it is "my opinion"

    also if simcity watchs me watching porn I'm buying simcity cause the thrill of another catching me is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! Me/EA/Porn its a 100's some. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirRobin View Post
    I don't think of it as spin. I can see where he is coming from. I just don't agree with him. It is entirely possible that every single one of those studios would have failed "without" EA. However, significant portions of what made those studios unique didn't survive "with" EA either.
    Completely agree with this Robin, some of the uniqueness is definitely gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toccs View Post
    Its not propaganda
    False.
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    EA does what it does.
    True!
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    You come across as angry please don't aim that anger at me, we can respect each others views and still disagree.
    No, you interpret it as anger because I don't simply swallow anything handed to me while you seek to use deflection(which is typical forum argument). I don't need to pat your back and buy you unicorn puppy sunshine milkshakes in order to express my discontent at a pile of rubbish and my view isn't diminished by you attempting to look like 'the better man'.

    Don't be offended that people don't accept your views as their own or that you even work there just b/c you remind people of it every other time you post. We already think for ourselves which is the entire point. Please don't try and spin the blame off on to a company for selling to EA...that's just laughable.

    Does it make them right for selling out for money? No. Are they the ones who are doing the actions referenced throughout the articles about this subject? Nope...that's EA, 'doing what they do' like you so aptly stated.
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  4. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by CherryPie View Post
    I don't remember Visceral Games being dead, the rumor of the Dead Space series being cancelled was false. I don't know how much Dead Space 3 sold trough.

    R.I.P. Westwood trough ;(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittyvicious View Post
    False.
    I guess that makes your views propaganda as well then, being one sided and all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kittyvicious View Post
    No, you interpret it as anger because I don't simply swallow anything handed to me while you seek to use deflection(which is typical forum argument). I don't need to pat your back and buy you unicorn puppy sunshine milkshakes in order to express my discontent at a pile of rubbish and my view isn't diminished by you attempting to look like 'the better man'.
    Your reading into me far too much, i don't do it to look like 'the better man', i do it because i hate arguing with people over the internet. I prefer to do it in person that way nothing is misinterpreted. I tend to lurk more then get involved these days for that exact reason as i'm not typically forum savvy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kittyvicious View Post
    Does it make them right for selling out for money? No. Are they the ones who are doing the actions referenced throughout the articles about this subject? Nope...that's EA, 'doing what they do' like you so aptly stated.
    Agreed but when people state that such and such developer is dead/destroyed by EA and provide no information based on that causes me to ask. I tend to do my own research and not rely on what one source has told me. A new trait that i'm starting to abide by at least.

    ps. I don't remind people every other post either, i think I've mentioned it twice. If i could take it back i would too.
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    sorry for the flood, but i think this is related, those two journalists talk about the "poll"




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    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    Christ, it's just an internet poll that awards a plastic piece of crap to someone, people should stop taking it so seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smith View Post
    Christ, it's just an internet poll that awards a plastic piece of crap to someone, people should stop taking it so seriously.
    Well, EA took it seriously enough to make a whimpering failure of an "apology"

    Forbes wrote excellent article on the subject of this Consumerist thing:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...america-again/
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    That article is a really nice read. Especially:
    Is it deserved? No. If we’re being honest, it’s not. There are dozens of companies that are technically, legitimately, actually worse than EA in terms of how much harm they directly cause people, and many of them are on this list. Rather, Consumerist’s poll doesn’t gauge this. Instead, it’s a measure of how annoyed the internet is with a certain brand at the moment.
    Except the last paragraphs: I hope the author doesn't really expect anything to be changed.
    In german we got a saying: Ist der Ruf erst ruiniert, lebt es sich ganz ungeniert. Means: When your public opinion is ruined, you can do what you want and let yourself go. It doesn't really change anything. And as long as micro management on full price games and forced drm increase profit, no matter how hated they are for that, it will continue. Profit is more important than the customer, like in every other business.

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    they are thing i don't like and other i don't really care.

    always online: i don't like at all, because of the murphy's law: if something can go wrong, it will go wrong. Either my internet, or the game server, or the login server, or wnything, at one point or another, i will not be able to play when i want. Something is bound to go wrong, so no to always online

    Pushing game too early I don't like, i prefer game release when they are done, well polished and quality. i don't think this is a good business practice anyway, it always always come back to bite you in the ass.

    Micro transaction like in dead space 3 for ammo, crafting mats etc... whatever, i don't care, i'm ok with it. If people are stupid enough (sorry for the name calling, but it's warranted) to ruin their gaming experience buying a quick way to finish the game, their problem not mine, i never used microtransation in the past, and i don't plan to, so does not affect me.

    content DLC well for starter everyone does it, deus EXHR (the missing link), dishonored (dunwall city trials, knife of dunwall) call of duty (map pack) skyrim (dawnguard, dragonborn) Everybody does it. I apply the same reasoning for them than for any stand alone game. Is it good value for the money. If yes, i buy, otherwise, i don't, simple as that

    Streamlining franchise so it appeal to a wider public audiance. Everyone does it; blizzard (wow), ubisoft (splinter cell conviction), 2k (xcom). that's a game design and not necessarely a bad thing, depends how it done. besides, i'm not convince it is so much an EA decision as a develoepr decision (or evena common decision)

    pre order bonuses no problem with it

    origin client no problem with seems robust client

    rarely goes on sale that's their policy, i don't have a problem with it. i always ask myself is it good value for the money.

    some game not on steam i don't care as long as they are on origin, i can purchase online

    closing down unproductive studio well, i guess it depends. Always sad to see legendary studio like bullfrog, westwood, sierra go under, but quite frankly, if they were releasing succesful game, EA wouldn't close them, so it's partly their fault. EA could support them i suppose, but to an extend. man i would love a reboot of the theme hospital franchise.

    can't think of other thing for now

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    I wonder is apple apologizing to china customers had anything to do with this?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21996134
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  12. #272
    Quote Originally Posted by CherryPie View Post
    I was not aware that C&C is the modern RTS. I thought Blizzard did that.

  13. #273
    One of the founders of Bioware discusses his relationship with EA, key quote :- Zeschuk wouldn't change a thing about his time at BioWare or EA, which he says "gives you enough rope to hang yourself"

    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...console-future

  14. #274
    Less worthless words and better products and service would be nice.
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  15. #275
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRabidDeer View Post
    I was not aware that C&C is the modern RTS. I thought Blizzard did that.
    Dune II by Westwood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    One of the founders of Bioware discusses his relationship with EA, key quote :- Zeschuk wouldn't change a thing about his time at BioWare or EA, which he says "gives you enough rope to hang yourself"

    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...console-future
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  17. #277
    In all honesty I find it hard to believe that people consider a video game company worse than a bank or a retailer.

    A bank is by far the worst considering recent history by default. EA should not have made it as far as it did in the contest regardless of how bad they are. Worst gaming company for sure. Worst company in the US out of the contenders? Hell no. Worst company in the US outside of the contenders? EA looks like a saint in front of most US corporations.

    And it's obvious EA is not going to change until people stop buying their products. Voting them to be the worst company only shows that 1. a lot of us have effed up priorities and 2. that we apparently still care about the company enough to deal with their shit when buying their video games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    One of the founders of Bioware discusses his relationship with EA, key quote :- Zeschuk wouldn't change a thing about his time at BioWare or EA, which he says "gives you enough rope to hang yourself"

    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...console-future
    Since we know the "context" involved? I would admit to having a hard time taking some of it seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaks View Post
    In all honesty I find it hard to believe that people consider a video game company worse than a bank or a retailer.

    A bank is by far the worst considering recent history by default. EA should not have made it as far as it did in the contest regardless of how bad they are. Worst gaming company for sure. Worst company in the US out of the contenders? Hell no. Worst company in the US outside of the contenders? EA looks like a saint in front of most US corporations.

    And it's obvious EA is not going to change until people stop buying their products. Voting them to be the worst company only shows that 1. a lot of us have effed up priorities and 2. that we apparently still care about the company enough to deal with their shit when buying their video games.
    It's THE CONSUMERIST. That evaluation is based on company-client relations, in which EA fairly beats anyone in how poor they treat theirs.

    For crying out loud, when did Bank of America started to call their clients "fans of BoA" and when they started to call complains of "feeling of entitlement"?

    Probably only Wal-mart used the vocal minority lie to defend itself between the contenders, besides EA.

    And their "apology" is a reminder they are greater and more powerful than any "fan".

    In client-company relations EA deserved the 2 prizes by far, and IF they can reach 2014 without "going THQ" they will win a third time.

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    EA is by far the most crappy video game companie there is, for real , pay 50 bucks for the game, pay 15 dollars for the other half or some crap like that. Meh i hate EA.

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