WoW is dead, of course, as always?
On a serious note, probably a stable amount of subs, perhaps a minor loss
WoW is dead, of course, as always?
On a serious note, probably a stable amount of subs, perhaps a minor loss
I called it 10 pages back that these threads only turn into bickerfests. "My answers are the right ones and you need to L2Read!" "No, MY answers are the right one and you are just trying to derail the thread." I said the info on the Q1 call is pure speculation and would only start a fight... and I was right.
The thread was already derailing before I even commented. People are adding their own facts to explanatory. Everyone who doesn't agree with them is "wrong" and those who do, need to agree to precisely what was said as their version is the most "accurate". People are telling others to learn to read, or go back to school, or yank their heads out.
This is not a derail. This is an I told you so at the end of an already derailing thread. No irony to be found when you stop and think about it.
I see we are going to do this useless dance again....
We get the usual suspects who beg the heavens for blizzard to come to a complete financial collapse because Blizzard changed something and they reacted badly to it and apparently telling everyone they were quitting on a forum didn't convince anyone else to quit like they thought it would.
Ultimately it doesn't matter what the numbers say because WoW is still blowing the competition down handedly even if its is an old game with a slowly decreasing population. If it were to loose half its population over night its still better off by leaps and bounds than any other mmo out there.
If you hate wow so much then you need a healhier hobby than going onto the forums for a game that you don't play anymore and doomsaying it, its not healthy to spend your life screaming about something you supposedly quit. Move along and find something that actually makes you happy.
No one is begging for Blizzard's financial collapse.
I am not sure how come to the conclusion that talking about WOW's sub numbers means that you must hate the game. If you are that invested in a product that you think that discussing anything that does show it in a positive light means that someone must not only not play any more but they hate it then maybe you should follow your own advice and find a healthier hobby.
Have you noticed that it is pro Blizzard people that seem determined to derail this thread?
This is usually how the fight goes. Pro Blizz Support vs. The Doomsday Chicken Littles. One side advocates this is just a game and it is doing great. The other side is bound and determined to have the honor of driving the last nail into the proverbial WoW Coffin. Most people fail to enjoy the game when they focus on things outside of the game. I would likely hate my homestate a lot more if I really dug deep into all of the crap they have to contend with and the choices they have to make on a daily basis. WoW for me is just a hobby, and I don't want to ruin my hobby by focusing on the business aspects and the negativity. So I am neither for Blizz, nor against them. I'm just a guy playing a game much the same way I have for years.
I still like WoW
Time is on our side
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Stating that the mmorpg industry changed from being a subscription based one to a free to play industry HAS an impact on WoW subscriptions.
As such it CONTRIBUTES to the thread.
It is odd to think that a changing industry to free to play as standard would not have had an impact on WoW subscriptions.
But go on, you amuse me. Because the mmo market changed from 16 million subs of which WoW had 11.5 ... to 11 miilion of which WoW has 9+ million...
I don't see the derail by giving the changed situation in which WoW has to OPERATE to obtain those subs ...
Last edited by BenBos; 2013-05-02 at 04:11 PM.
All of which has nothing to do with the topic that was being discussed before you starting derailing the thread.
Oh and where is the supposedly easy to find information about the income that WOW generates? You said it was easy to find but you have yet to provide us with a source.
Grab calculator, press some buttons.
Income = a shitload, just from subs alone. Speculation would require hard numbers on how much they bring in due to transfers, name changes, race changes, pet sales, merch sales, etc.
It's fairly mind blowing that anyone in this company could ever say "we don't have the manpower to do _____" with a straight face.
Well I think subs may take a 600k dip in asia
The income is a lot, but it is nowhere near the billions when you take into account that Chinese don't pay a normal subscription, and pay far less a month than EU and US does. Even if 10 million people payed their 15 dollars a month you still only get 600 million per quarter, which is probably vastly overstated. They make a lot, sure. But basic math alone proves that making over a billion off WoW per quarter is almost completely unreasonable. (also remember it will be less as well due to discounts for paying multiple months and so on)
I think Wow will continue to decline at the same rate - 4 sub/min. I.e. loss of one sub every 15 sec = 500k subs loss per quarter. This Q1 call is very meanfull, cuz it will be the turning point: will this game continue becoming asian-grind-pokemon-style game or we will have a hope, it will turn to it's normal direction, as this happened in Cata.
Sorry for my bad english.
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I think it's really easy and even attractive to people to daydream about worst case scenarios©Bashiok
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