1. #20621
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    "Under Investigation" has no evidentiary standard.
    Well Courts threw our child rape case in Texas and California. Look today, it got dismissed in NY lol!

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  3. #20623
    Quote Originally Posted by May90 View Post
    That's fine, if he is your candidate, feel free to vote for him. Just after everything you've said, he should be an unacceptable candidate even from your point of view, because everything negative you say about the government - applies to him.

    I don't even see Donald as a candidate. A candidate is supposed to have some qualities that would make one consider them. Trump has no presidential qualities.

    Good night.

    May ill PM tomorrow and we can talk more. I 100% agree hes not perfect, but when everyone is against him, i feel like we gotta support him more, just me.
    With Presidential qualities, i could careless about them. I keep saying this over and over but we have to go back to "We the People", and we have 2 break up the party system. It's like if u would run for President, idc a random person, what are your views, thats what i care about the most.

  4. #20624
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post



    lol

    10char.
    Trump is reaching out to all of the marginalized victims of globalism.

  5. #20625
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    Trump is reaching out to all of the marginalized victims of globalism.
    Trump is reaching out to fill his pockets with his tiny hands.

  6. #20626
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Trump is reaching out to fill his pockets with his tiny hands.
    His pockets have always been full. He owns the most beautiful landmarks on earth, his goal is to make America great again. He is taking a great loss going against the grain in washington and the globalists around the world. He is the first true world leader.

  7. #20627
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Trump is reaching out to fill his pockets with his tiny hands.
    I think you mean Hillary clinton and also to stay out of Jail.

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    Sure does sound like a super nice plan...

    For the wealthy to profit even more.

    I get a good laugh at anyone who thinks Trump will do anything to help the common man.
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  9. #20629
    Quote Originally Posted by Fadeslol View Post
    1) Trade Deals will be handled
    You realize that there are major repercussions to threatening to abandon, or actually abandon trade deals just because you want to renegotiate them....right? This isn't a business deal, this is international politics, despite what Trump would like his supporters to think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fadeslol View Post
    2) Immigration, ICE just need to enforce the laws.
    So will they be going house to house to round up all 11 million illegal immigrants? Or are they just going to get the criminals now and then work on the rest of them? Or was it getting the criminals now, and then figuring out what to do about the rest later? Or were the ones who weren't criminals going to be allowed to stay? I'm confused as to what his latest policy on that is.

    Also how he in any way expects to force Mexico to pay for the wall that he's been suspiciously quiet about for a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fadeslol View Post
    3) Energy
    "Coal, coal, and more coal!" is not an environmentally, sustainably, of economically wise policy in the longterm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fadeslol View Post
    4) Vets
    Is he going to promise to write them a donation and then not get around to it until press start double checking that he held true to his word again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fadeslol View Post
    5) Obamacare if he has R
    Without the faintest inkling of a plan to replace it with beyond, "JUST LET THEM SELL ACROSS STATE BOARDERS!", which isn't remotely close to a solution for many of the major problems the ACA addressed (can't be denied for a pre-existing condition, can't be dropped because you're "too expensive", etc.).

    All looks pretty great!

  10. #20630
    Quote Originally Posted by Fadeslol View Post
    You're not allowed without Approval. She didn't have it. She deleted 33k emails AFTER Congress subpoenaed them. Hey i'm going to try that too. Also Bill Clinton met on a plane with AG a week before the FBI Decision and in private like wtf?

    Clinton Foundation, she sold favors for profit. IE Russia

    Former Haitian President of Senate

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phKO2T2pMjM

    Is that good enough?
    She didn't delete them after subpoena. The subpoena was more than 6 months later. She deleted *personal* EMails in Sept or October of 2014 in handing them over to State (not under subpoena) because, well, they belonged at State. Trent Gowdy's subpoena came in March of 2015. The law forbidding the use of personal servers only was formalized AFTER she was SecState, and was a past practice established by other SecStates. To be sure, State is a security nightmare, but it was that way long before she was SecState and was only tightened up in 2014.

    I mean, if you're going to make simple, declarative statements about the EMail thing, they should be at least be right. Here's a simple timeline:

    2014
    2014 -- The State Department requests that all former secretaries of state "submit any records in their possession for proper preservation."
    Also in 2014, at the request of the State Department, Clinton hands over 55,000 pages — approximately 30,000 emails. Left out were emails deemed by her and her staff to be "personal."

    December 1, 2014 -- President Barack Obama signs an update to the Federal Records Act that clarified how private emails are allowed to be used. According to the National Archives and Records Administration, this update prohibits "the use of private email accounts by government officials unless they copy or forward any such emails into their government account within 20 days."

    March 3, 2015 -- Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill says:
    "... like secretaries of state before her, she used her own email account when engaging with any department officials."
    "For government business, she emailed them on their department accounts, with every expectation they would be retained. When the department asked former secretaries last year for help ensuring their emails were in fact retained, we immediately said yes."
    "Both the letter and spirit of the rules permitted State Department officials to use non-government email, as long as appropriate records were preserved."
    March 3, 2015 -- State Department spokeswoman Maria Harf says: "[There's] no indication that Secretary Clinton used her personal email account for anything but unclassified purposes ... While Secretary Clinton did not have a classified email system, she did have multiple other ways of communicating in a classified manner, including assistants printing documents for her, secure phone calls and secure video conferences."

    March 4, 2015 -- After 48 hours of silence, Clinton tweets: "I asked State to release them. They said they will review them for release as soon as possible."
    The same day, the House committee investigating the 2012 attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, issues a subpoena for Clinton's Libya-related emails.

    Your points on the Clinton foundation and Haiti are laughable to the point of being irrelevant.

  11. #20631
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    You realize that there are major repercussions to threatening to abandon, or actually abandon trade deals just because you want to renegotiate them....right? This isn't a business deal, this is international politics, despite what Trump would like his supporters to think.



    So will they be going house to house to round up all 11 million illegal immigrants? Or are they just going to get the criminals now and then work on the rest of them? Or was it getting the criminals now, and then figuring out what to do about the rest later? Or were the ones who weren't criminals going to be allowed to stay? I'm confused as to what his latest policy on that is.

    Also how he in any way expects to force Mexico to pay for the wall that he's been suspiciously quiet about for a while.



    "Coal, coal, and more coal!" is not an environmentally, sustainably, of economically wise policy in the longterm.



    Is he going to promise to write them a donation and then not get around to it until press start double checking that he held true to his word again?



    Without the faintest inkling of a plan to replace it with beyond, "JUST LET THEM SELL ACROSS STATE BOARDERS!", which isn't remotely close to a solution for many of the major problems the ACA addressed (can't be denied for a pre-existing condition, can't be dropped because you're "too expensive", etc.).

    All looks pretty great!
    1) Yes, we have to do whats better for America, not for other countries.
    2) No one said going house to house. We will simply enforce the laws of the US and have ICE do their job.
    3) We have clean Coal. America invented it.
    4) That's a lie, you have to vet the programs. You know if you donate to the Clinton Foundation, that money is going into their pockets.
    5) Ik this is really hard but we are a free market country. If you create competition, you get better prices and better service.
    Its not like the Obama Scam that was pushed on the American people.

  12. #20632
    What has Donald trump ever done that was not self serving?

  13. #20633
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    There are five fbi investigations going on against the Clinton cartel at this very moment and that's only the ones we know about. Patriotic americans are pretty serious about keeping their country free of corruption. We always see these riots in urban areas...
    There are three fbi investigations going on right now against the Trump cartel and that's only the ones we know about. The FBI took a book which was debunked and used it as an escuse to investigate Clinton based on the fiction being 'a character study that suggest the real person capable of corruption' and when denied the subpoena's they wanted they got pissed off and decided they were going to do anything in their power to get her.

    You can call them criminals once Guiliani is investigated to find out which of your patriots went above the law.

  14. #20634
    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    She didn't delete them after subpoena. The subpoena was more than 6 months later. She deleted *personal* EMails in Sept or October of 2014 in handing them over to State (not under subpoena) because, well, they belonged at State. Trent Gowdy's subpoena came in March of 2015. The law forbidding the use of personal servers only was formalized AFTER she was SecState, and was a past practice established by other SecStates. To be sure, State is a security nightmare, but it was that way long before she was SecState and was only tightened up in 2014.

    I mean, if you're going to make simple, declarative statements about the EMail thing, they should be at least be right. Here's a simple timeline:

    2014
    2014 -- The State Department requests that all former secretaries of state "submit any records in their possession for proper preservation."
    Also in 2014, at the request of the State Department, Clinton hands over 55,000 pages — approximately 30,000 emails. Left out were emails deemed by her and her staff to be "personal."

    December 1, 2014 -- President Barack Obama signs an update to the Federal Records Act that clarified how private emails are allowed to be used. According to the National Archives and Records Administration, this update prohibits "the use of private email accounts by government officials unless they copy or forward any such emails into their government account within 20 days."

    March 3, 2015 -- Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill says:
    "... like secretaries of state before her, she used her own email account when engaging with any department officials."
    "For government business, she emailed them on their department accounts, with every expectation they would be retained. When the department asked former secretaries last year for help ensuring their emails were in fact retained, we immediately said yes."
    "Both the letter and spirit of the rules permitted State Department officials to use non-government email, as long as appropriate records were preserved."
    March 3, 2015 -- State Department spokeswoman Maria Harf says: "[There's] no indication that Secretary Clinton used her personal email account for anything but unclassified purposes ... While Secretary Clinton did not have a classified email system, she did have multiple other ways of communicating in a classified manner, including assistants printing documents for her, secure phone calls and secure video conferences."

    March 4, 2015 -- After 48 hours of silence, Clinton tweets: "I asked State to release them. They said they will review them for release as soon as possible."
    The same day, the House committee investigating the 2012 attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, issues a subpoena for Clinton's Libya-related emails.

    Your points on the Clinton foundation and Haiti are laughable to the point of being irrelevant.
    March 4, 2015: Clinton Was Served A Subpoena By The Benghazi Committee Regarding Her Emails. (House Of Representatives Select Committee On Benghazi, Subpoena To Hillary R. Clinton, 3/4/15)

    House Select Committee On Benghazi Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) Pointed Out That The Committee Had Sent Clinton A Subpoena In March 2015 Asking For Her Work-Related Emails. “But House Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Trey Gowdy said Wednesday, ‘It couldn't be more plain’ ‘To state that you never received a subpoena, you did get one, in March. Your lawyer was on notice months before that, that this committee of Congress wanted your work-related emails,’ the South Carolina Republican told CNN Wednesday. Gowdy requested Clinton's emails last December, but did not subpoena Clinton until this past March, following reports that she had maintained a personal email server.” (Jeff Zeleny and Tom LoBianco, “Clinton Subpoena Claim Undercut By Lawyer’s Reply,” CNN, 7/9/15)

    March 27, 2015: Clinton’s Own Lawyer Responded To The Subpoena On March 27, 2015, Saying Clinton Was Awaiting Approval From The State Department Before Providing The Emails To The Committee. “Clinton lawyer David Kendall responded to the subpoena on March 27, writing that Clinton was awaiting approval from the State Department before providing them to the committee. ‘This letter will respond to (1) the subpoena duces tecum issued by the Benghazi Select Committee to the Hon. Hillary R. Clinton and served by agreement on March 4, 2015,’ Kendall wrote at the time.” (Jeff Zeleny and Tom LoBianco, “Clinton Subpoena Claim Undercut By Lawyer’s Reply,” CNN, 7/9/15)

    March 25-31: Clinton’s Emails Were Deleted Sometime Between March 25-31, 2015 By An IT Specialist Working For Clinton. “‘In a follow-up FBI interview on May 3, 2016, (name redacted) indicated he believed he had an 'oh s***' moment and sometime between March 25-31, 2015, deleted the Clinton archive mailbox from the PRN server and used BleachBit to delete the exported .PST files he had created on the server system containing Clinton's emails,’ the report stated. The mass deletion occurred after the March 2, 2015, Times story and after a March 3, 2015, preservation order from the House Benghazi Committee to retain and produce documents related to her email accounts.” (Tal Kopan and Evan Perez, “FBI Releases Hillary Clinton Email Report,” CNN, 9/2/16)

    About Hillary's Approval, she used it in 2009+ with no approval. Even if Obama signed that order, thats 5 years.

    Haiti, what are u lawling? Takes 2 billion from Haiti, gives back less than 10% and keeps the rest lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadeslol View Post
    1) Yes, we have to do whats better for America, not for other countries.
    What? Why? We will pay and you shoot. And you need resources from outside as well, there is no way you just introvert after so many years of splendor due to your exploits out of America. Think of the positive side being a global power. Hillary knows the world and has a good global network, she will also re-negotiate how much money we put into the Nato and it's likely we will agree to pay more if its her. So just get the bigger picture.

  16. #20636
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    There are three fbi investigations going on right now against the Trump cartel and that's only the ones we know about. The FBI took a book which was debunked and used it as an escuse to investigate Clinton based on the fiction being 'a character study that suggest the real person capable of corruption' and when denied the subpoena's they wanted they got pissed off and decided they were going to do anything in their power to get her.

    You can call them criminals once Guiliani is investigated to find out which of your patriots went above the law.
    Probably after AG and Bill met on a private plane for 45 mins a week before the FBI decision probably pissed alot of people off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    What? Why? We will pay and you shoot. And you need resources from outside as well, there is no way you just introvert after so many years of splendor due to your exploits out of America. Think of the positive side being a global power. Hillary knows the world and has a good global network, she will also re-negotiate how much money we put into the Nato and it's likely we will agree to pay more if its her. So just get the bigger picture.

    Only thing Hillary knows is how to blow up the world and stay rich with her friends. We can still have good trade deals but if they don't want to give us fair share, then we walk. Simple as that. We need to have peace with Russia, not have war with Russia. I don't want WW3, she wants it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadeslol View Post
    Probably after AG and Bill met on a private plane for 45 mins a week before the FBI decision probably pissed alot of people off

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    Only thing Hillary knows is how to blow up the world and stay rich with her friends. We can still have good trade deals but if they don't want to give us fair share, then we walk. Simple as that. We need to have peace with Russia, not have war with Russia. I don't want WW3, she wants it.
    Update: We were talking about Trade deals.

  17. #20637
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    There are three fbi investigations going on right now against the Trump cartel and that's only the ones we know about. The FBI took a book which was debunked and used it as an escuse to investigate Clinton based on the fiction being 'a character study that suggest the real person capable of corruption' and when denied the subpoena's they wanted they got pissed off and decided they were going to do anything in their power to get her.

    You can call them criminals once Guiliani is investigated to find out which of your patriots went above the law.
    I'm sure there are 3 going against trump, its a battle of good vs evil. The evil will sink to any level including lies. Clintons crimes are obvious, her people brag about them, they write emails and extort money from leaders of small countries.
    Last edited by Hooked; 2016-11-05 at 08:24 AM.

  18. #20638
    Quote Originally Posted by Fadeslol View Post
    3) We have clean Coal. America invented it.
    Clean coal is a sales pitch, it refers to trying to capture the co2 from the burning process but does nothing to address the problems associated with mining or the coal ash that is created as a byproduct of burning it. In case you didn't know, The ash is incredibly toxic, Here are some concerns about the safety of coal ash.

  19. #20639
    Trump had another affair http://www.wsj.com/articles/national...yMonY5tfEKQVgI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    I'm sure there are 3 going against trump, its a battle of good vs evil. The evil will sink to any level including lies. Clintons crimes are obvious, her people brag about them, they write emails and extort money from leaders of small countries.
    That's nice.

  20. #20640
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Trump had another affair http://www.wsj.com/articles/national...yMonY5tfEKQVgI

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    That's nice.
    John podesta went to a spirit cooking shindig. That's where they perform a devil ritual and eat a mixture of sperm, menstrual blood, piss and breast milk. Drink up like the ritual demands. Absolutely disgusting and they must be purged from our lands.

    I also read his brother has all kinds of weird pedo art in his home.
    Last edited by Hooked; 2016-11-05 at 08:37 AM.

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