The new matchmaker

[caervek]

Couldn't find a thread on this surprisingly, but yeah is anyone else finding the new MM and the forcing of roles in team queues to be dog ****?

It's supposed to make teams more balanced but as far as I can tell all it does is make the queue take 3-5 times as long and teams are even more unbalanced than before due to it no longer classifying some chars as pseudo-supports when they are, matching healers vs supports, matching tanks vs bruisers, etc etc.

Seriously, and this is no joke, I mean this I'm not just saying it for emphasis, I have lost more games on the loading screen in the last 10 days than I have in the last 4+ years of HotS.

[Necroxis]

I was wondering why the other day my solo queue time was nearly 5-6x the supposed average wait time.

[Deleted]

I honestly couldn't care less about the queue's being longer i can deal with that. but yes somehow the end result is not better. getting games like 2 tanks&bruiser Vs a single Varian. you can only hope he goes tank specced.

and things like a full poke team VS a full melee team. they always try to make MM better, but somehow the times you lose on the team makeup just happens more and more often.

Maybe it just needs some fine tuning, but it's like blizz thinks things like Butcher=stitches and medivh=whitemane. i just don't understand it.

[Kolvarg]

I sort of like it so far. Still getting used to the longer queues, but overall it has been better quality matches.

You can still get, for instance, heroes like TLV, or just straight-up counter comps, or a bruiser vs a tank as you say, or a team of only poke/sustain damage versus a healer like Malf or Ana. But so far better than before (in my experience). I also had yesterday a game where my team had no tank, bruiser, healer or support, and the enemy team had 3 healers. Not sure how that happened

It's still far from perfect, but it's a step in the right direction, personally.

[mqrtk]

wanna play with friends ? wanna play the hero you like ? too bad you cant pick him

its fucking shit. Its Quickmatch after all... people who want serious Games need to play with Draft

[PPN]

I dont mind the new MM to much, even it was not really needed. Ofc the longer queue can be slightly annoying..but then i decided to play a QM as Hanzo and it told me that i cant, because the role is not needed ...lol what?

[Saphyron]

I honestly couldn't care less about the queue's being longer i can deal with that. but yes somehow the end result is not better. getting games like 2 tanks&bruiser Vs a single Varian. you can only hope he goes tank specced.

and things like a full poke team VS a full melee team. they always try to make MM better, but somehow the times you lose on the team makeup just happens more and more often.

Maybe it just needs some fine tuning, but it's like blizz thinks things like Butcher=stitches and medivh=whitemane. i just don't understand it.

That is litterally not possible.
The matchmaker will always put in.
1 tank, 1 healer and 1 ranged assassin, so it can't be a full melee team.

[Unrealsiego]

The new MMS works alright sometimes but if you wanna play a specialist you are looking at a queue timer about 500-700 sec.
I really like Zagara which I can only really play in QM since when ever I pick her in draft or ranked some1 leaves or I just get a full team report, so yeah it was a good idear but...
It also looks like every specialist is getting a rework to assassin since with the XP change lanepushers are useless, sure you get a cata every 3rd spawn but it gets killed of by the 2nd minion wave so.

[Charge me Doctor]

Games in QM are rarely lost on a loading screen with new MM compared to old MM.

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That is litterally not possible.
The matchmaker will always put in.
1 tank, 1 healer and 1 ranged assassin, so it can't be a full melee team.

Yeah, that's why it's better than old one. I remember games with TLV and murky on the same team. Without a tank. It was a dogshit. Now i finally can play QM alone without spamming friendlist with invites and /w to get a full team

[Nikkaszal]

People last year:
"Holy shit fix the matchmaker, I got yet another five-assassin team, I don't care if queue times get longer so long as I get a tank and healer"

People now:
"WTF ARE THESE QUEUE TIMES"

[Nerraw]

I enjoy it, regardless of queue times. It lets me practice any hero I want at any time and be sure that I get a proper comp to practice that hero with.

[Deleted]

Is this just QM or all modes?

Wanted to play some HL after a break of several months, but when he gave me an estimated wait in the 500-600 second range, I just rolled my eyes and hit alt-F4. If it shouldn't affect HL, it probably was just my high MMR uncertainty.

[Nerraw]

Is this just QM or all modes?

Wanted to play some HL after a break of several months, but when he gave me an estimated wait in the 500-600 second range, I just rolled my eyes and hit alt-F4. If it shouldn't affect HL, it probably was just my high MMR uncertainty.

QM.

HL is suffering from the fact that you can now solo-queue for TL. You should try that instead of HL, queues are much shorter.

[Austilias]

Longer queue times for matches that don't seem to be noticeably better balanced.

Hard to understand what it achieved tbh.

[mqrtk]

from 1min to 5min+ ... thanks blizzard.... fucking piece of shits

[Charge me Doctor]

People last year:
"Holy shit fix the matchmaker, I got yet another five-assassin team, I don't care if queue times get longer so long as I get a tank and healer"

People now:
"WTF ARE THESE QUEUE TIMES"

Who knew that people like playing assassins over fucking morales in solo QM ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Speaking of QM - yesterday (right after i made a post in this thread while sitting in a queue) we queued as 3 (since two of us got away to get a lunch) probius, orphea and genji (har har i know but they wanted to level them) and after ~5 minutes queue we've got a KTZ and medivh. And opposing team (3+1+1 players) were artanis, varian, azmodan, illidan and uther. We held them for 18 or 20 minutes but it was a disaster. I definitely got it coming for posting shit like "i like new MM" not playing fucking morales

[Necroxis]

People last year:
"Holy shit fix the matchmaker, I got yet another five-assassin team, I don't care if queue times get longer so long as I get a tank and healer"

People now:
"WTF ARE THESE QUEUE TIMES"

The Venn Diagram of both of those groups isn't two circles on top of one another. Furthermore plenty of us were not saying, "We want higher queue times if they fix the mm." It was just, "Stop giving one side a balanced team and the other side 4 specialists and a healer."

[Druitz]

Is this just QM or all modes?

Wanted to play some HL after a break of several months, but when he gave me an estimated wait in the 500-600 second range, I just rolled my eyes and hit alt-F4. If it shouldn't affect HL, it probably was just my high MMR uncertainty.

Try TL 5k master pts and i wait 2 min max for game. A lot of ppl are playing TL.

[Nerraw]

Longer queue times for matches that don't seem to be noticeably better balanced.

Hard to understand what it achieved tbh.

It achieved tanks and healers in every game, which means you can now actually queue as a bruiser and not get ducked over. Or you can queue as a non-healer support and actually avoid having to face Abathur.

[Austilias]

It achieved tanks and healers in every game, which means you can now actually queue as a bruiser and not get ducked over. Or you can queue as a non-healer support and actually avoid having to face Abathur.

Which is nice, but anything that isn't a tank or a healer seems to have insane queue times lately, so the choice was apparently between potentially getting ducked over as a Bruiser (but certainly getting a short queue time), or never getting ducked over (but certainly getting a long queue time). South Park's giant douche and turd sandwich spring to mind.