Forsaken/Worgen are missing Allied Races...

[Friendlyimmolation]

What Forsaken deserve... a BLOOD ELF AR!!!!

The only other "established" undead under the Forsaken is the Nathanos model, and the last thing this game needs is MORE humans running around.



A fuck ton of elves died to the scourge, the San'layn/ undead elves make a ton of more sense than the horrendous light undead Blizzard are hinting at with the subtly of a fast and furious movie.

[Hallowseve17]

I could see it being Night Elf Worgen and San'layn.

[ChairmanKaga]

To be fair the concept “the game doesn’t need more humans” while I agree is more true of Elves.

[wanax]

What Forsaken deserve... a BLOOD ELF AR!!!!

By the light.... anything but friggin San'layn. I still dont get the draw of them. They get brought back for BFA as cannon fodder in the Alliance campaign and now theyre an AR candidate. It'd be a lot more likely to get something like the boot licker, a human with undead skin color.

[EbaumsTipster]

The only other "established" undead under the Forsaken is the Nathanos model, and the last thing this game needs is MORE humans running around.



A fuck ton of elves died to the scourge, the San'layn/ undead elves make a ton of more sense than the horrendous light undead Blizzard are hinting at with the subtly of a fast and furious movie.

I don't give a shit, it's another goddamn Blood Elf AR, we already got one in BFA.

Give it a rest till the next expansion, this shit prints money so there will of course be more ARs as they've said. High Elf, Wildhammer, Half Elf, Broken, San'layn... push it till later. Do the rest of the races first.

[Friendlyimmolation]

I don't give a shit, it's another goddamn Blood Elf AR, we already got one in BFA.

Give it a rest till the next expansion, this shit prints money so there will of course be more ARs as they've said. High Elf, Wildhammer, Half Elf, Broken, San'layn... push it till later. Do the rest of the races first.

It's no more of a blood elf AR than Murlocs.

San'layn are the only other established undead "race" with ties to the Forsaken, and there are no other options that make a mote of sense for Forsaken

[Skytotem]

Umm Horde would get Hozen, not mogu. As the Hozen joined the horde in Pandaria

Hozen model would require MUCH more work than Mogu though, and Mogu are a bit "cooler"

[EbaumsTipster]

It's no more of a blood elf AR than Murlocs.

San'layn are the only other established undead "race" with ties to the Forsaken, and there are no other options that make a mote of sense for Forsaken

I mean that's like saying Gnolls are a Human Allied Race because they're also alive and have ties to Stormwind.

[Oneirophobia]

Maybe those cool cat people from WoD :3

I had them pinned for Horde and the Botani for Alliance (perhaps the Night Elves would now be interested in a more ferocious form of nature), but it would be an interesting subversion to expectations to have cats and dogs allied with each other.

[ohwell]

I thought Ankoan were going to use the Worgen rig, but nope. It may be like Vulpera you're right.

Saurok, Dragonmen, White Worgen that look like the OG model are all possible.

Are we talking skeletons or just similar race? Vulpera use goblin I thought.

[Iambackagain666]

Worgen are just humans

TBH the Horde Needs Humans and the Alliance Needs Orcs

Well how can that be well.........

AU Draenor Groms son became a light infused Zealot that sided with Yrel and so Orc Paladins who could side with the Alliance is a thing that can really happen if they can find out how to get back to AU Draenor just like how the Horde did but that shouldnt be a problem seeing how the Alliance has the best mages around.

As for Humans joining the Horde well take your pick of the Human factions that hate Stormwind and want to see it burn!!

[Kaleredar]

I had them pinned for Horde and the Botani for Alliance (perhaps the Night Elves would now be interested in a more ferocious form of nature), but it would be an interesting subversion to expectations to have cats and dogs allied with each other.

The time the botani tried to invade Stormwind probably didn't impress them too well in the minds of the Alliance. Furthermore, we really don't "know" anything about the Botani; they have no charismatic or notable individuals.

I mean that's like saying Gnolls are a Human Allied Race because they're also alive and have ties to Stormwind.

The san'layn have actively worked with the horde; gnolls have done no such thing with the alliance. That being said I don't think they're a particularly compelling group; very few of them exist and frankly we don't need more elves.

Lightforged undead make the most sense, but their willingness to ally with Sylvanas is... dubious, especially considering that Calia was murdered by Sylvanas while attempting to get forsaken to join the alliance.

Vulpera allying with the horde makes a good deal of sense, as do ogres.

A "kindred spirit" for the alliance worgen would be the sethrak. It would add some necessary spice to the alliance's ranks, especially if the alliance are just going to be getting more gnomes for the foreseeable future.

Hozen model would require MUCH more work than Mogu though, and Mogu are a bit "cooler"

Both would need updating, and the mogu have never been allied with the horde.

[Kyphael]

Lightforged Undead with Calia and Saberon brought in by Mag'har seem logical.

[TigTone]

Buff undead, beefy and meaty

[ohwell]

I mean that's like saying Gnolls are a Human Allied Race because they're also alive and have ties to Stormwind.

Not even remotely. They were both under the employ of the Lich King and were allies in life and death. I think you're also equating allied race has to be actually physically related to an existing race in the faction. Pretty sure Void Elves are Alliance.....which race are they allied to? Void and Night elves are about as related as Sanlayn and Forsaken at this point. If Vulpera come into play, which race are they allied to in the way you're claiming?

[Kyphael]

Buff undead, beefy and meaty

You mean like Nathanos? Yeah, I could dig that.

[EbaumsTipster]

Are we talking skeletons or just similar race? Vulpera use goblin I thought.

Skeletons.

What I meant by "may be like Vulpera" means that it may be the "Worgen AR" might be a new race entirely that uses the Worgen rig. It would be revealed at around the same time as Vulpera to show that Alliance is also getting a new species race with existing rigging.

[Friendlyimmolation]

I mean that's like saying Gnolls are a Human Allied Race because they're also alive and have ties to Stormwind.

did Gnolls help the Alliance? Do they share history with the Alliance as past brothers in arms? No? Then your comparison isn't at all valid.

[Skytotem]

Both would need updating, and the mogu have never been allied with the horde.

Mogu use a draenei skeleton though which is considerably less work.

And now that the Zandalari are in the Horde, and Zul's dead, we might be able to pull some in.

Hozen have a crouched posture which makes armor design fitting onto them VERY difficult compared to other races. It's comparable to doing Naga or centaur.

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Both would need updating, and the mogu have never been allied with the horde.

Mogu use a draenei skeleton though which is considerably less work to update to fit armor onto.

And now that the Zandalari are in the Horde, and Zul's dead, we might be able to pull some in since they're so desperate for a homeland.

Hozen have a crouched posture which makes armor design fitting onto them VERY difficult compared to other races. It's comparable to doing Naga or centaur. Thematically, there's also a lot less to do with the Hozen.

[Syegfryed]

The only other "established" undead under the Forsaken is the Nathanos model, and the last thing this game needs is MORE humans running around.

it definitely don't need MORE elves running around either.