new forsaken leader spoilers

[Lord Pebbleton]

So, are forsaken alliance now?

[Friendlyimmolation]

So, are forsaken alliance now?

In all but name, like all Horde races now.

[Syegfryed]

It's almost like appointing a leader who has zero similar qualities with the race she want's to "lead" is a bad idea.

further proof was making sylvanas lead the horde, when she had zero similar qualities with the races she was leading.

they did once and apparently they will do again, derek and calia will be the new nathanos and sylvanas

is just a spiral down to the dumpster

[Villager720]

Why would the Forsaken want a leader with nearly nothing in common with them?
She didn't get "scourged", she has never been Horde, she didn't try to help them for what must be close to 2 decades now, and she was never hunted as a monster by her former kin.

The forsaken have real leaders they could have turned to if Blizzard had bothered to build them up (see : the development it looks like they might squander on Nathanos).

They do not deserve some light-bound puppet that has done precisely nothing to help them for decades.

[Trassk]

Why would the Forsaken want a leader with nearly nothing in common with them?
She didn't get "scourged", she has never been Horde, she didn't try to help them for what must be close to 2 decades now, and she was never hunted as a monster by her former kin.

The forsaken have real leaders they could have turned to if Blizzard had bothered to build them up (see : the development it looks like they might squander on Nathanos).

They do not deserve some light-bound puppet that has done precisely nothing to help them for decades.

which is why I think Voss should be an important player in this, seeing thats exactly the problem, and her stepping up to be the real leader of the forsaken.

[Tihani]

Derek and Calia, sittin' in a tree. F-U-C-K-I-N-G

[Trassk]

It's almost like appointing a leader who has zero similar qualities with the race she want's to "lead" is a bad idea.

a random goose is as good a leader for the Forsaken as Calia is, hell it may actually be better.

you do remember that forsaken, a group of undead HUMANS, where lead by an undead ELF for several decades? Tell me how a silvermoon undead elf could relate to undead humans?

Oh turns out she didn't that well in the end.

[Mehrunes]

Overlord Geya'rah: And you? Where do your loyalties lie?
Lilian Voss:Where they always have--with the Forsaken.

Looks like Blizzard already forgot that Voss joined the Forsaken only in Legion after deliberately not being a part of them for years. Also, I like how they dragged Gey'arah out of all people into this mess. I guess no Horde leader is free from the unification vibes.

Ooooh Nooooo, The Forsaken actually get to grow as a faction and have a new identity outside of its tyrannical ruler? The Horror!!

God forbid it actually happened in an organic matter or something rather than being an instantaneous 180 shift. As long as you get to go on about how mature you are about being OK with change, amirite?

[Absintheminded]

Well if this doesn't make it sounds like unification....

[Weatherwax]

Yay, finally Lordaeron gets its rightful queen back. Oh man the Apothecaries better run, Calia got guns!

[Mehrunes]

Forsaken get a leader that actually cares about them, people still mad


Amazing

Forsaken get a leader that has nothing to do with what they are. Who knew it would be badly received

[Villager720]

which is why I think Voss should be an important player in this, seeing thats exactly the problem, and her stepping up to be the real leader of the forsaken.

Even Voss isn't ideal if you ask me. She rejected being forsaken for nearly all of her screen time thus far. Then randomly *poofs* into the Horde in BfA.
She hasn't really done much for "her people" either. Just farmed lots of azerite for me.

[Mehrunes]

you do remember that forsaken, a group of undead HUMANS, where lead by an undead ELF for several decades? Tell me how a silvermoon undead elf could relate to undead humans?

Have you missed the formation of the Forsaken as a faction by any chance?

[Kyphael]

gg forsaken will die

i can delete now

LOL Lillian reached out to Calia! Them Forsaken player tears are deliciously salty! Bow to your new Lighrforged Queen!

[Tihani]

So, are forsaken alliance now?

Nah, they just gave Calia and Derek to the Horde and Lightforged Undead will be a Horde Allied Race.

[Trassk]

God forbid it actually happened in an organic matter or something rather than being an instantaneous 180 shift. As long as you get to go on about how mature you are about being OK with change, amirite?

Change is a scary concept, I get that. It taints anything around you and makes even adapting to it hard. Don't worry, your learn that change in a story can actually introduce something, maybe something thats been needed for years.

[Mehrunes]

which is why I think Voss should be an important player in this, seeing thats exactly the problem, and her stepping up to be the real leader of the forsaken.

Yes, the character that refused to join the Forsaken five in-lore years and only joined them at the start of BfA is precisely the one that should been an important player here. Not any Forsaken that has been one from the start, or at least since Cata.

[Friendlyimmolation]

you do remember that forsaken, a group of undead HUMANS, where lead by an undead ELF for several decades? Tell me how a silvermoon undead elf could relate to undead humans?

Oh turns out she didn't that well in the end.

I mean there is acting dense and then there is this. I mean hell dude I'd ask you if you've ever played this game or ever paid attention to any forsaken lore with how hilarious your statement was.

Please elaborate in detail, or try to elaborate at all how Calia is a good leader for the Forsaken.

The ONLY thing she has is she is human, and if race is all in your eyes that's needed to make a good leader, it's no wonder you are so easily satisfied with the upcoming new leadership.

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Yay, finally Lordaeron gets its rightful queen back. Oh man the Apothecaries better run, Calia got guns!

You know she's going to poke a blight cannister and go "what is this?"

And an Apothecary is going to say "uh, liquid friendship?"

calia will then clap her hands, or maybe she'll do everyone a favor and drink it.

[Villager720]

you do remember that forsaken, a group of undead HUMANS, where lead by an undead ELF for several decades? Tell me how a silvermoon undead elf could relate to undead humans?

Oh turns out she didn't that well in the end.

At least Sylvanas had been with them every step of the way. Hell, she freed or raised the vast majority of them.
Sure, she was selfishly using them, but why they followed her made sense.

A light-blessed, alabaster statue that until recently was merely a lore footnote, and has never done a single thing for them or been with them serving as their leader does not make sense.

Any forsaken player character has a better claim to leadership than their absentee "Queen".

[Kyphael]

Forsaken get a leader that has nothing to do with what they are. Who knew it would be badly received

The only thing in common Sylvanas had with The Forsaken of Lordaeron was they were both killed by Arthas. What does it matter the circumstance of one's death? They're all undead just the same. Calia meanwhile, grew up with presumably most of these Forsaken, she knows them by names, and can offer them comfort of her family name, Arthas notwithstanding, but Terenas who presumably is still considered a beloved king, versus the Undead elf that just spit on them and abandoned them.