PvP stats PLEASE. It solves every problem. The complaining will vanish if they do JUST THAT.
PvP stats PLEASE. It solves every problem. The complaining will vanish if they do JUST THAT.
Does this mean that regular Torghast is just the "shits and giggles" version to complete a questline, but the 18 floor "Twisting Corridors" is the actual repeatable content that will have all the rewards? I mean.. to be honest I'm not sure being forced to go up 99 floors a week would have been very fun.. I feel like 18 floors is already a good amount of floors. Since I don't have a lot of time I feel like this change is good for me.
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For the covenants, it will be mathed out early on which Covenant is the best for your spec/class. You will pick that one.
The real worry is when Blizz learn of this math and nerf the crap out of the mathematically superior one.
Take Condemn/Venthyr for Warriors. This is a flat no brainer. Condemn is miles ahead of the other covenant abilities due its utility in all aspects of the game.
What happens when they nerf it?
There is nothing to "think" about. The best covenants will get mathed out and then 99% of people will choose the strongest covenant for their spec/class and that will be it. Covenants are an illusion of choice and nothing more, and that is what makes it a poor system. Not to mention I can already see people getting denied from mythic+/raids because they aren't their BIS covenant.
Thanks to various shoe-horned in interactions this won't be the case anymore. At least not across the board. For m+ you pretty much want one of each coveant if you run a permanent team, since they allow for some completely broken skips or power upgrades in the dungeons.
The first raid currently could mean that many people either roll kyrian or go alliance for hardcore progress to get rid of the bleeds (from all the non-vampire mobs..).
You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
Not everyone cares about the layers of content where people are denying each other. Most if not all content will be developed as covenant agnostic because it's intended for everyone to see it regardless of covenant. Difficulty levels are not content. Covenant campaigns are content and yes, there your covenant will matter... because that just makes sense.
Tl;dr on Covenants: they're not changing it before launch, they don't intend to figure out how to switch out the soul bind talent tree buffs that apply to the abilities to make them swappable, they'll probably change it after a patch due to complaints or two into the expansion.
“what do you play?” in Shadowlands to be “Kyrian paladin” or “Venthyr paladin” rather than just “paladin.” I have heard that somewhere before.. in the past... in BFA beta.. perhaps? almost exact forumla. BFA- "What do you play? In Bfa we want people to be a "Prot paladin" or a "Ret paladin" rather than just "Paladin"".
They can keep polishing turd till the end of time, but it will still be a turd.
Blizzard has never succeeded in balancing system like this.
Covenants will be the great fault of this expansion which they'll admit was a mistake when doing 10.0 interviews two years from now on.
Well, ideally - but there's been tons of examples in the past where that hasn't been the case, and Blizzard's balancing has oscillated wildly between OP and useless (with a few exceptions). That's what people are worried about, and with good historical reason.
They keep promising that everything will be balanced and that the real DPS differences will be on the order of racials (nevermind the fact that past racial imbalance is directly responsible for the wild population skew towards Horde). Whether or not they actually WILL balance it like that is another matter entirely, and with Blizzard's track record so far many people simply aren't buying into the promise. No matter how often it's repeated.
37 + (3*7) + (3*7)W/L/T/Death count: Wolf: 0/1/0/1 | Mafia: 1/6/0/7 | TPR: 0/4/1/5SK: 0/1/0/1 | VT: 2/5/2/7 | Cult: 1/0/0/1
Excellent news that the covenants remain meaningful, was worried they'd give into the whingers.
There isn't any reason to have a problem with covenants in any system where classes exist.
I'm 100% behind trying to reverse the homogenisation.
It doesn't matter if content is designed for all covenants to be able to do it - all that matters is what people will require when forming groups. We already see item level requirements and Raider IO scores - to think for a second that people won't also require BIS covenants would be silly.
You're reading it wrong. Twisting Corridors has always been limited to 18 floor runs at a time, to prevent your powers from scaling too far out of control. Once you've completed an 18 floor run, you can skip to floor 18 on your next run and begin there, with your anima powers wiped.
Torghast is broken out into 6 floor "blocks", and you can skip to any "block" you've completed on a previous run. i.e., once you've cleared an 18 floor run you can skip to Floor 7, Floor 13, or Floor 19 on your next run. If you then begin at Floor 19 and successfully complete floor 32, you can begin your next run at 33 (or any other block interval below that).