I google "Gardens of Life Wowpedia", I click the link to the WoWpedia page, and I am met with a page with just 1 line (of Factual information) in total:
Yes, I totally agree that the expansion after Shadowlands should be set in a location that literally only has 1 line of lore. NaturallyThe Gardens of Life are a plane mentioned by the Stubborn Animate in Maldraxxus, who claims to have fought off "meddlers" from the realm.[1]
How do people even come up with these shit leaks...
The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!
How is Yrel not totally evil? Join or die or be forcibly added to the ranks for....their cause which might not really be right to begin with. I mean I would have loved to see Xera react to Alleria once she went void elf. Clearly she is on our side at the moment, but I would bet Xera would go apeshit and try to kill her on sight simply because she was void infused. I mean the very question you ask later is why kill the void lords is spot on. We've only been told their bad simply because the light said so and the ones we've encountered seemed hostile yet all it would take is a little void to make the light hostile to us. I think the idea they'll run with is that it's all a matter of perspective just like the "new" chart which a lot of people have shown it's just the old one from a different angle.
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So because he's new he's bad? Yeah ok....
"We need something new!" "Here you go" "AmG POORLY DEVELOPED!!!!!!!" "We're LITERALLY developing a character in front of you" "Ok but what's his plan, what is he after" "Why so you can scream 'Twirling Mustache!!'...yeah no" "BAD LORE BAD LORE!"
I mean the lore isn't deep, but I mean these are the people who didn't understand why we were killing Illidan in BC....even though every quest up to BT showed exactly what atrocities he was committing much less even those that haven't been retconned away, the torture of the Netherdrakes is still canonically by his hand and direction(oops novel must have missed that in trying to make him heroic). Then again these are also the same people who think he was a hero/antihero when everything he did was for himself or to win Tyrande's favor. I mean they really need to just make the lore more paint by numbers for these people or something and maybe they won't cry bad lore because the children's book level seems a bit too complicated for them.
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Shadowlands has been around and referenced for a very long time. It's not just from the cosmic chart.
No with Shadowlands at least we knew that it was a ghostly version of Azeroth and/or a dark forest, it had a place which resembled "Void" for the most evil souls (like Sylvanas and Arthas), and had other things like Mueh'zala, Helya, and some Eye entity that looked at Odyn.
Which is still very little but at least it's not just one line of dialogue spoken by some random trash mob nobody cares about.
If this one random line of dialogue is meant to have some importance, the "Gardens of Life" will at best be a region in one zone. They're not making expansions for every location that is named by every random NPC.
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The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!
That's my point.
If they want to explore the cosmic chart, life is the next logical target.... but I really hope they don't do that... it is fine for a patch Zone... but not more. I would like a life-oriented expansion to start on Azeroth.
We have the emeral dream for a long time... life has been an important aspect of wow... we have the connection to Ardenweald... and we even have Elune who is a important figure in life lands... the garden of life is just the name they have chosen for it.
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The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!
We all know that they extending the lore with SL massively, so to me it is not surprising that they give the life lands a proper name with garden of life (or its just a place in the life lands). We already were in the emeral dream multiple times, its is not the life realm itself (probably) but just connected to it.
The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!
You're all missing my point. I wasn't arguing lore and beef were required for an expansion to happen. Shadowlands is the proof of that, despite its few mentions we knew nothing of it. Same goes for Pandaria.
So technically, if Blizzard wanted to do a Gardens of Life expansion: they could. I don't think they would anytime soon, especially following SL, but they could, and the lack of lore wouldn't prevent that.
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The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!
The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!
Yrel is only "evil" when applied to our standards. To her, the Light needs to be spread to all corners of the universe and all vestiges of evil or the Void should be eradicated. How is that any different than what your standard Paladin believes?
The only real difference is that she forces people into her beliefs, and what makes her scary is that she has the power to do it.
That said, I like the idea of Light followers being an antagonistic force.
Where did I say insignificant? And why are we discussing the reception of an expansion by players instead of the possibility that an expansion may happen despite its lack of lore backbone?
Don't put words which aren't mine in my mouth, and keep the attitude for someone else, thank you very much pumpkin.
By that same logic they should have made the entire expansion about the Maw instead of all those other zones. Besides, you're basing your argument on a falsehood. That "one line" is just the only place they're actually named, not the only place they're referenced.
That the Emerald Dream is possibly only part of a larger whole isn't exactly a new idea either... that's been around since at least WotLK.