Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[rhorle]

And as I've said, I'm happy to disagree with you on that. It doesn't mean there isn't any silence. All you're providing here is your opinion, and one that I'm not contending whatsoever. Repeating yourself isn't changing anything since I've addressed that above.

You have done nothing but contend that opinion. Even saying they did something without providing any proof. Why does a show need to brag about its performance in order for it to be a success? There have always been rumors. There is a website that has dedicated itself to lies about the show for over a year prior to its release. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Amazon made no official press release about the boys post Season. They talked about its growth in past seasons when announcing it was renewed for Season 4. But we don't know much about season 4.

[Triceron]

Amazon made no official press release about the boys post Season. They talked about its growth in past seasons when announcing it was renewed for Season 4. But we don't know much about season 4.

Sure they have. They made talks of the Boys' success when it first came out and talked about its sequels and spinoff projects. I'm not talking specifically about Season 3 of the Boys.

You have done nothing but contend that opinion.

Er, I haven't contended it at all.

All I said is the silence is defeaning, and repeated the point that they haven't said anything about the performance of the show post-finale.

Whatever you're implying is contending your opinion is really just you. I'm not sure how repeating a statement I made before you even presented your opinion constitutes as contending your opinion. If I took a poop in a toilet and you scooped it out and put it in your cheerios, you can't turn that around to say I pooped in your cheerios.

[Dhrizzle]

It has "Lord of the Rings" in the name, what did you expect? Same thing with the new "Star Wars" trilogy. There's a huge fanbase that loves these franchises, to see it treated like shit will obviously make people very mad.

Most of the noise comes from YouTube drama fans who think "treated like shit" is an accurate way of describing an adaptation, probably not that many actual Tolkien fans.

[rhorle]

Sure they have. They made talks of the Boys' success when it first came out and talked about its sequels and spinoff projects. I'm not talking specifically about Season 3 of the Boys.

Do you have links to them talking about it? As their official press releases don't match your claims. They've talked about Rings of Power. Not much. That lack of specific information you want isn't deafening at all. Why can a show only be good if it brags about itself right away?

[Triceron]

They've talked about Rings of Power. Not much. That lack of specific information you want isn't deafening at all. Why can a show only be good if it brags about itself right away?

The silence that I'm referring to is contextually specific to the performance of the show and anything to dispel the rumors. I can repeat this a billion times and you'll still not listen, and by not considering this there's no way to move forward with this discussion. Like, I'm not sure what you want here.

You are being anal retentive, that is it. If you don't think it is defeaning then that is your opinion. I'm not quite sure you need to address this as though 'silence is defeaning' is something that has to apply to you. You understand that this is an expression of my own opinion, right? Because if it's not defeaning to you, surely you understand the nuance of subtext and opinion, yes? That this reply to a comment to someone else's post might not have anything to do with your own opinion?

I mean, you came at this with no intention of addressing the context of my original reply even after I made it clear what I was talking about. What exactly are you arguing here, that you don't think the silence is defeaning? Well I am fine you have that opinion. What more do you need here?

Why can a show only be good if it brags about itself right away?

I wouldn't know, you would have to ask the one who made that argument why they think that would be true. Obviously since I never said anything remotely close to that at all, I wouldn't be able to answer the question that you're presenting.

I'm sorry, I can't answer the arguments you're arguing yourself with.

[rhorle]

The silence that I'm referring to is contextually specific to the performance of the show and anything to dispel the rumors. I can repeat this a billion times and you'll still not listen, so yes you are being dishonest by not considering the conversation we're having now and moving forward with it.

Why is a show required to dispel rumors every time one occurs? Why do they have to do it within X time frame from last episode airing? Why does lack of doing so translate to the show believing they failed? Of course this is an expression of your own opinion. Why can't you explain your own opinion with out turning to predictable attacks/focus on me?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

so yes you are being dishonest

Do you not think this is a bit ironic when you pointed to the boys releasing info multiple times but won’t respond to him asking for any sort of evidence multiple times?

[Triceron]

Do you not think this is a bit ironic when you pointed to the boys releasing info multiple times but won’t respond to him asking for any sort of evidence multiple times?

It's not worth my time to dig back 5+ years through articles for. And you haven't been arguing with Rhorle much, so I don't expect you to understand why providing sources for him is a waste of time.

[Rageonit]

It's not worth my time. You haven't been arguing with Rhorle much, so I don't expect you to understand why providing sources for him is a waste of time.

Then don't argue with him, because, if what you say is true, you make yourself look stupid.

[rhorle]

It's not worth my time to dig back 5+ years through articles for.

The Boys season 1 was 3 years ago in 2019.

[Triceron]

Then don't argue with him, because, if what you say is true, you make yourself look stupid.

C'mon man, practically half the pages of this entire thread are dedicated to my arguments with Rhorle, and you think that arguing him NOW will make me look stupid? I think that's a judgement people would have already made regardless of what I do moving forward, and this changes nothing.

Who are we kidding here? You think people think all that highly of anyone else here? The threshold for mutual respect here is quite low. If any of us are actually looking for deep conversation, we wouldn't be looking in the MMO-C off-topic threads for it.

[Rageonit]

C'mon man, practically half the pages of this entire thread are dedicated to my arguments with Rhorle, and you think that arguing him NOW will make me look stupid? I think that's a judgement people would have already made regardless of what I do moving forward, and this changes nothing.

I mean, yeah, the back and forth started to border on stupid long time ago - but if you choose to continue it, either do it in good faith and provide proof when he asks for one, or shut up. That's my take on it. You thinking low of him doesn't exempt you from the rules of a honest conversation, sorry.

[Triceron]

I mean, yeah, the back and forth started to border on stupid long time ago - but if you choose to continue it, either do it in good faith and provide proof when he asks for one, or shut up. That's my take on it. You thinking low of him doesn't exempt you from the rules of a honest conversation, sorry.

Who said I was having an honest conversation?

I mean, If I casually dropped a "Tolkien would roll in his grave", he'd reply asking me to provide a source for that. I'm not sure it'd need to be provided in good faith either. And I'm not opposed to slinging mud when it gets down to it. If I were really looking for better conversation I wouldn't even be here.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

It's not worth my time to dig back 5+ years through articles for. And you haven't been arguing with Rhorle much, so I don't expect you to understand why providing sources for him is a waste of time.

I mean that rather compounds the point that your the one being dishonest because of last experience with Rhorle.

[Rageonit]

Who said I was having an honest conversation?

That's exactly what's being pointed out, ain't it.

[rhorle]

Then I'm sure you can find the information you need.

I have already told you that I can't find anything that fits what you've claimed. Hence why I asked you to provide a link several times. You seem so adamant about something while being unable to to provide anything to back it up.

[Triceron]

I mean that rather compounds the point that your the one being disgust because of last experience with Rhorle.

Yes, I am quite disgusted by that last experience. I'll absolutely admit to that.

If he can't google something that is easily google-able, then that's really not my problem. I'm not humoring him because whatever links I post would be ammunition for him to take on a tangent, or to dismiss for some other arbitrary reasoning that has nothing to do with the context of the original statements. I'm sure you would already know from all the times you've argued and provided links for him. Oh wait.

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since you meant dishonest, I'll just refer to you to my reply to Rageonit below, since it would just as much explain my reasoning to do so, including his own response which confirms exactly what I predicted would happen.

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That's exactly what's being pointed out, ain't it.

Yep, that it is. Now has that changed your opinion of me to looking stupid as though you ever thought it I didn't already look stupid? Probably not either.

[Rageonit]

Yep, that it is. Now has that changed your opinion of me to looking stupid as though you ever thought it I didn't already look stupid? Probably not either.

Stupid and dishonest are two different things. You can't do much about the former, so that's more easily forgivable. As for the latter, it suggests that you're not a nice person to talk with.

[AcidicSyn]

C'mon man, practically half the pages of this entire thread are dedicated to my arguments with Rhorle, and you think that arguing him NOW will make me look stupid? I think that's a judgement people would have already made regardless of what I do moving forward, and this changes nothing.

Who are we kidding here? You think people think all that highly of anyone else here? The threshold for mutual respect here is quite low. If any of us are actually looking for deep conversation, we wouldn't be looking in the MMO-C off-topic threads for it.

Hey I think well of several posters here, yourself among them. Auculd to name another. Endus too. I don't always agree with what they say, but I have some level of respect for any mmo-c poster who can consistently debate with other posters without devolving into foaming at the mouth and screeching.

[bledgor]

Are people really defending the troll bot? Like seriously half the thread is him making asinine idiotic comments that have no basis in reality. Find a better hill (in this case he would be the Mariana trench) to die on.