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  2. #7102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sails View Post
    Allow the BE to massacre them and survivors fully join the VE. No HE no problems
    Hopefully they get Vareesa's Hobbit children too.

  3. #7103
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunderella View Post
    There is no problem with High Elves. They are there, in the Horde.
    Nope those are blood elves. Watch the suramar city intro. High elves still excist in the alliance. 3th windrunner sister is among them with her sons :S

    basic lore facts are hard..i know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florena Emberlin View Post
    The ones with no identity of their own that only really show up to be salty about blood elves or serve as foils to them? Who really don't even serve that purpose anymore because post BC blood elves lost their edge anyway?
    Oh, I wasn't making a big argument as why I think they're needed, I'm just saying there are High Elves in the Alliance, not just the Horde. They just also happen to not be playable.

  5. #7105
    Politics and eye color are not enough to make a separate playable race. High Elves are just NPCs until they look drastically different from Blood Elves.

  6. #7106
    Quote Originally Posted by baskev View Post
    Nope those are blood elves. Watch the suramar city intro. High elves still excist in the alliance. 3th windrunner sister is among them with her sons :S

    basic lore facts are hard..i know.
    Still the same race - as noted by Ion, game director.
    They do not want to give both factions the same playable race. It's that easy. Basic ideas are hard...i know.

  7. #7107
    The only debacle going on is the discussion itself. The lore is all there; Blood Elves ARE High Elves and Blizzard has already stated as much. Alliance now, technically,has Void corrupted High Elves. The options are all there, whiners just aren't happy with the options they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausoin View Post
    Simply add a ability where a void elf when out of combat can transform back to a regular elf just like Alleria and the worgen, have a small quest chain about a group of High elves from the Silver covenant wanting to join or dont bother even doing that if Blizz is feeling lazy, just add a new ability and bam. They will be diffrient enough then just blood elves with blue eyes and it would finally mark the end of annoying fans demands every single expansion and every time a new elf sub race has been introduced.

    This will satisfy everybody involved.

    I like the idea.

    Another option would be to add some more blonde tone option for their void hair. Similar to how the DID have white hair with lava. So basically bleached out blonde with void stuff
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  9. #7109
    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    They do not want to give both factions the same playable race. It's that easy. Basic ideas are hard...i know.
    BUT POLITICS AND LORE

    We DESERVE them!

  10. #7110
    Oh man , I hope they include some war story arc between blood an high elves so that blood elves can wipe them the fuck out once and for all , that's a solution to the debacle .

  11. #7111
    Quote Originally Posted by EbaumsTipster View Post
    High Elves are just NPCs until they look drastically different from Blood Elves.
    Which wouldn't make any sense. Being the same race and all - any customizations that they have (such as the face paint/feathers/tattoos/etc) would also be something blood elves would have available to them culturally. Lor'themar and Sylvanas were rangers with Alleria at the same time - they just didn't choose to paint their faces.
    But hey. One person's preference for finger painting is enough to justify a playable race's identity.

    It's all just absurd. Imagine for a moment if they gave the Horde playable humans with new tattoos, new hair cuts, and literally no other changes physiologically.
    We could call them High Humans! Makes sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    Tell you what, give Alliance high elves. It'll shut those whiners up and it'll allow the blood elves to return to their TBC characterization when they weren't boring as sin.
    If the Horde gets red Draenei (=Eredar) instead - deal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Which wouldn't make any sense. Being the same race and all - any customizations that they have (such as the face paint/feathers/tattoos/etc) would also be something blood elves would have available to them. Lor'themar and Sylvanas were rangers with Alleria at the same time - they just didn't paint their faces.

    It's all just absurd. Imagine for a moment if they gave the Horde playable humans with new tattoos, new hair cuts, and literally no other changes physiologically.
    We could call them High Humans!
    why not the defias brotherood? they are the human high elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sails View Post
    Allow the BE to massacre them and survivors fully join the VE. No HE no problems
    Or this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Which wouldn't make any sense. Being the same race and all - any customizations that they have (such as the face paint/feathers/tattoos/etc) would also be something blood elves would have available to them. Lor'themar and Sylvanas were rangers with Alleria at the same time - they just didn't paint their faces.

    It's all just absurd. Imagine for a moment if they gave the Horde playable humans with new tattoos, new haircuts, and literally no other changes physiologically.
    We could call them High Humans!
    But the Void elves with an temporary appearance only ability have changes physiologically on every level.

  16. #7116
    Quote Originally Posted by valax View Post
    why not the defias brotherood? they are the human high elves.
    Because then we'd have the same race playable on both factions.
    Which is something, post Pandaren, they said they do not want to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausoin View Post
    But the Void elves with an temporary appearance only ability have changes physiologically on every level.
    Or just get an Orb of the Sin'dorei.

  17. #7117
    Quote Originally Posted by scubistacy View Post
    If the Horde gets red Draenei (=Eredar) instead - deal!
    Sure, why not. I'd give them high elves for free if it means blood elves get to be fun again. In a better world, after the gutting of their TBC identity belves would have become lux vult elves purging the heretics, but it hasn't happened.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post

    Or just get an Orb of the Sin'dorei.
    Sure create a new orb, orb of the quel'dorei, that's another solution.

  19. #7119
    Quote Originally Posted by ausoin View Post
    Sure create a new ord, orb of the quel'dorei that's another solution.
    That is acceptable to me honestly.

    We have a compromise Blizzard!

  20. #7120
    Quote Originally Posted by UnluckyAmateur View Post
    Alleria was a vastly different scenario. Void Elves were partially transformed into etherals while Alleria had training in the void prior and absorbed a dark naaru.
    Quote Originally Posted by Florena Emberlin View Post
    The whole point of void elves was to give the alliance something close to high elves, but a bit different thematically and visually.

    Giving them normal high elf options defeats the purpose. Worgen work because humans are already on the Alliance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    The only debacle going on is the discussion itself. The lore is all there; Blood Elves ARE High Elves and Blizzard has already stated as much. Alliance now, technically,has Void corrupted High Elves. The options are all there, whiners just aren't happy with the options they have.
    Well with the orb like orb of the Sin'dorei they would still be completely the same, it would only be an illusion. When you think about it its a better idea then the ability to change back like with the worgen.
    Last edited by ausoin; 2018-10-04 at 03:32 PM.

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