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It's a great pitch from AMD realistically, cause they now own the best value option (3600, maybe even 3300X or 3700X depending on current offers/budget) and they can claim they have the best performance with Zen3, for the demographic that usually goes the way of intel.
Why though?
I mean look at it from AMD's perspective. They have the better product. Why should they price it lower than the competition? AMD has very clearly for a while now wanted to move away from being the cheaper option, because to lots of people that means the more expensive Intel option is seen as the premium, better option. Psychology is funny like that.
Ontopic though; I was impressed with the event. Straight to the point, no bullshit, no wasting of time with some stupid influencers or the like (looking at you Nvidia...). Here are the changes, here's roughly how much better it's going to be, here's the specs, here's the price, availability in stores on this date. Done.
Thumbs up for that.
Gonna wait for benchmarks to see how much of an improvement it will be from my current 3600.
Nvidia's 100% increase had asterisks. Those asterisks were ; Minecraft RTX with RTX enabled. This was true. This is what marketing is, you can't lie, but you can bend the truth and imply allot to trick people. Everyone watching should of known something was up the second they put that slide up. The AMD slides for the 5900X for example, have no asterisks. I double checked to be sure, and there are none. The stats are 1080p high settings, where it beats the 3950X and i9 10900k - what this means for 1440p/4k is anyone's guess, but seeing how the gap is so close before Zen3, it's perfectly believable that Zen3 is going to be ahead, as they claim. Frankly, they deserve to be at this point. If the figures shown aren't true, then what they've said is a straight up lie, not just shady marketing.
AMD have earned a lot of trust from me in the CPU department, they are killing it, and even if their numbers are bullshit, it's still a no-brainer purchase over Intel regardless.
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Yep, but it's still better. It makes no sense for AMD to undercut Intel at this point. The Ryzen 3000 series has sold like hotcakes and AMD is completely dominating the DIY market with it. There's nothing to gain for AMD by lowering prices at this point because they're already dominating sales in this category and probably selling everything they can make.
Rocket lake is still months away and may very well re-take the crown, but AMD is no stranger to lowering prices to compete when it's needed, they've done that with all Ryzen CPU's this far. Intel generally keeps the same price through the lifespan of the product.
I'll wait for benchmarks.
1) Load the amount of weight I would deadlift onto the bench
2) Unrack
3) Crank out 15 reps
4) Be ashamed of constantly skipping leg day
You can still buy a 3600 though. Nothing is stopping you. And frankly with 5600x being roughly 20-25% better, for budget builds, you should get a 3600 still. Now we don't know if they'll launch a $250 5600 at a later point. They did skip x700 nomenclature as well.. So would expect a cheaper 8 core at some point.
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But what game needs such a high-end CPU anyway?
All that really matters is Price/performance for their mid level CPU's.
We don't yet know if there will be a cheaper "Ryzen 5600" at some point. The 3600X has an MSRP of $249 so it's $50 more for the 5600X.
The 10600K is also at $265 but requires a more expensive motherboard than the AMD option so the total price will be basically the same.
I don't really see how there's anything that would hurt AMD here. Lower overall sales maybe? But with higher prices for each sale it's whatever in the end. Companies generally like higher product margins instead of higher overall volume of sales. I mean, are people going to go "Nah these new AMD cpu's are too expensive, I'll buy an Intel system instead, for the same money (and likely) slightly worse performance? Who does that other than fanboys?
They need to make money, they are running at a loss right now with their current prices if you take their R&D into account.
You can't survive on a 100% profit margin as a tech company, they're really fortunate and smart that they don't make their own CPU's.
Intel has already thrown $100 billion at their 10 and 7nm product lines, and now they might even skip 7nm for 5nm, throwing even more money into it.
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Most people of that group won't upgrade their cpu's for another 5 years though. So it doesn't matter.
People need to stop complaining about tech prices, they're expensive, get used to it.
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