1. #1041
    Something must be wrong here, i was told 2 pages back that Limit might have not be able to kill KT AT ALL since they didnt have the trinkets.

  2. #1042
    Quote Originally Posted by Heyimyoshyy View Post
    TBH, would be great to hears the dev view on why they didn't hotfix a change for KT or just communicated to the guilds that what they are doing isn't intended and they should stop.
    probably because they were asleep.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  3. #1043
    Quote Originally Posted by Heyimyoshyy View Post
    TBH, would be great to hears the dev view on why they didn't hotfix a change for KT or just communicated to the guilds that what they are doing isn't intended and they should stop.
    Because it was clearly an oversight on their part and not a game breaking exploit. They've literally wiped a raid mid-pull to prevent cheese mechanics they don't approve of, they could've done the same here.

  4. #1044
    Quote Originally Posted by Purrowl View Post
    Let's just hope for either Sylv dying this reset or late next... If it dies in the first 2 days of reset the community really needs to pressure blizzard to for once support these teams who are actively promoting their dead Game and do a global release.
    Not sure it is so clear cut as to whether designing raids like this is actually good for the health of the game. Complicated question
    A better way to think about Casual v Hardcore: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...asual-Hardcore

  5. #1045
    Quote Originally Posted by Zelai View Post
    Something must be wrong here, i was told 2 pages back that Limit might have not be able to kill KT AT ALL since they didnt have the trinkets.
    They didn't target farm the trinkets, but still had 2 dps with them which was enough to get it done, they still had to use 1 normal brez suicide.

    It was just an assumption that they didn't have dps with them because they didn't know about the Strat.

  6. #1046
    Can't watch either of streams, how does Sylvanas look? Tighter than Sire?

  7. #1047
    I actually really hope they change the tank add dying if its target dies this reset so they both have to reprog it after lockout, hopefully removing the 16hr advantage.

    The 16h advantage resets every time theirs a weekly reset, it means you get 16 hours with upgrades over the other

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Can't watch either of streams, how does Sylvanas look? Tighter than Sire?
    Not far enough into it to tell.. echo hasn't gotten to p2 yet.

  8. #1048
    Quote Originally Posted by BrioWoW View Post
    Add despawning tricks are so bad for the game. Blizzard should be ashamed. Not to mention being able to just chill on the boss to let cds come back up. Penultimate boss drops like a fly. One really solid boss the whole raid. Pathetic.
    How can you progress on mythic Sylvanas and post on mmo-c at the same time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Can't watch either of streams, how does Sylvanas look? Tighter than Sire?
    Currently there's a transition phase where she hits immune and puts out absolutely mental damage.

    Needless to say, Echo hasn't got past it yet.
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  10. #1050
    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    How can you progress on mythic Sylvanas and post on mmo-c at the same time?
    This is complete nonsense.
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    Sad just sad...

    Despawning Mobs and getting away with it just killed RWF.

  12. #1052
    Looking at the initial pulls, p1 of Sylvanas seems to come down to who is gunna figure out how to deal with the bajillion adds that spawn, and make the transition smoother.

    Don't seem like the moonkin vortex's are working that great but its still early

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryjkur View Post
    Bosses die so fast no wonder ppl don't bother with mythic raiding. After you clear it on HC it's just matter of days to kill it on mythic so majority of guilds don't bother.
    Yes, that is why they don't bother.

    Sure thing.
    Thanks for the ad-hominem; it supports your inability to support your argument.

  14. #1054
    In regards to KT, I posted early hours this morning the Mythic fight was quite literally the Banshee/Abom/Skeleton and Glacial Spike placement

    Limit were getting 1st phylactery phases perfect up until Soul Fractures and Frost Blasts which only affects the latter came into play which hindered progress.

    It's quite literally a 4 mechanic fight which is very underwhelming for what in theory was a very well thought out designed fight, but the Mythic execution of it was very bad.

  15. #1055
    Comp differences -

    Limit
    2 DPS DH, 3 Boomies, 1 Prot Pally, 1 BDK, 1 Ele Sham

    Echo
    1 DPS DH, 5 Boomies, 1 BM Monk, 1 Prot Pally, 1 DPS DK

    Both
    Same healer comp, 2 Warrs, 2 Locks, 1 Hunter

  16. #1056
    If that trick was exploitative, Blizzard would have curb stomped them or the entire fight for it. In 8.3 there were several possible exploitative solutions to encounters and in some cases Blizzard literally despawned the bosses in front of raiders.

    It's kinda lame but a kill is a kill is a kill.

  17. #1057
    Quote Originally Posted by Flura View Post
    Sad just sad...

    Despawning Mobs and getting away with it just killed RWF.
    From what I've heard on the streams , the mobs that focus a player are intended to despawn if the target dies.A lot of strats revolved around the target dying and getting a bres but with this trinket bres was not needed as you could just use the trinket so it's clearly not an exploit even Max said the strat was super good and they copied it 100%. It's just a misstep from Blizzard since they knew since testing that the add that focuses a player despawns if the player dies. Ofc it's stupid but this was known forever , since first testing. So basically using this cheat death trinket is pretty big brain.
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  18. #1058
    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    If that trick was exploitative, Blizzard would have curb stomped them or the entire fight for it. In 8.3 there were several possible exploitative solutions to encounters and in some cases Blizzard literally despawned the bosses in front of raiders.

    It's kinda lame but a kill is a kill is a kill.
    literally not true

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    Uhh what happened? I slept 12 hours ago and I see that Echo demolished Limit in KT and pulls on Fate as well. Can anyone catch me up? Thanks.

  20. #1060
    The main problem with exploit or not is that blizzard is very inconsistant with it

    Lappe posted in earlier threads many examples of Blizzard deciding exploit or not just with a dice

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