I really like Dwarves, I can't speak highly enough about them
I really like Dwarves, I can't speak highly enough about them
This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.
Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.
Or a goblin-esque face on a bear's body which sounds like nightmare fuel.
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Also perhaps some sort of crystal adornments and maybe a bit more pronounced tail as opposed to other bear forms. More of a tail than the Zandalari guardian form as well. Although I could see that looking strange on a bear
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Sorry to bump this, but I wanted to post in here a while back but completely forgot...
I just want to add outside of Tolkien does WoW have the best dwarves in fantasy? The only thing that's lacking in Dwarven lore in WoW is more of their culture, outside of their structure, architecture and love for booze, we don't know much about their political systems, their hierarchy, the belief and religions systems
When I look at Biowares Dragon Age, they go really in depth with dwarf lore (mainly in Dragon Age: Origins). You are inundated with codex's, and nuggets of lore from NPC's from the shaperate to the political inside details to even a class structure. Its something I have found WoW lore really lacking when it comes to racial culture within WoW's universe.
From a atheistic point of view I love WoW Dwarfs over Dragon Age Dwarfs but Dragon Age seem to have more details down about their culture than WOW does. Although with Dragon Age the one complaint I have about their dwarves are the lack of beards and I am not a fan of them having American accents :P
I don't play WoW anymore, but I loved WoW dwarves and very few fantasy games make the kind of dwarfs archetype as well as WoW does.
I love Warcraft, I dislike WoW
Unsubbed since January 2021, now a Warcraft fan from a distance
Two things (other than the fact that I agree with this completely).
1) All of this should have played out in game. The facgt that we never got the chance to play through the inner turmoil of what was happening in Ironforge is ridiculous. It was literally the first inmteresting thing to happen to the Dwarves since the game launched, and it happened largely off screen. That's terrible storytelling.
2) They never, never, never should have had Varian swoop in to 'fix' it. They were full on into their 'Make Varian as larger than life as possible' schtick, and it was to the utter detriment to the Dwarven story and to the players. They should have made this a Dwarven centric plot, and kept other races out of it. It cheapens and diminishes the race if the heroic human leader was to jump in and handle even their politics. Let them have their moment in the sun. It didn't even need to be a primary plot point at the time. Just some fun side content for those invested.
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I'd say Warhammer has arguably better Dwarves than WoW. Hreat design and portrayed as utter badasses. If you ever played Warhammer Online, the made Dwarves in that game look and feel amazing.
I loved the story that they gave Dwarves in Dragon Age, that was increidble. My issue was their game model. It was absolutely atrocious. They looked more like weirdly deformed gorillas.
There's a great book series by a German author named Markus Heitz that's been translated into English that puts Dwarves front and center (first book is called, fittingly, The Dwarves). They're long reads and very thick on narrative, but great at showcasing Dwarves as heroic characters as opposed to comic relief.
That is on my 'to read list' actually, I am currently bogged down with other books right now... I will get to that hopefully next year
I have a huge love for Dwarves in fantasy... but that also makes me very cynical when they are in it, because I wanna see them done well.
I love Warcraft, I dislike WoW
Unsubbed since January 2021, now a Warcraft fan from a distance
In lore Nelves are stronger, they’re enhanced elves, they are just too superstitious and spiritual. (Almost wrote stupid)
Dwarves are as strong as humans, which is saying something because they are shorter. So it’s nothing to laugh at.
Something with Gryphons, thunder/lightning hammers for facials will fit
Something I have imagined about Shadowforge City and the Dark Iron Dwarves is that the Dark Irons have created spécial runes in order to help protect themselves from their volcanic environnement.
For example they have special runes that protect them from the toxic gas produced by Blackrock Mountain's volcanic activity, these runes absorbing the gas and turning it into oxygen.
They may also have runes that disminish the heat, ar least to allow their allies to go into Shadowforge City without passing out and dying because of the heat. Because seriously most races wouldn't last long into the city and Blackrock Mountain with the terrible heat, the lava and the gas.
Eh, the problem with Bioware is that it feels like one person on the write staff really liked Dwarves for DA1 since after DA1 they've been just, completly ignored to the point of none relavence with the only notable Dwarf being one whose entire point is that he's the least Dwarf ever.
Will second "The Dwarves" just be aware it has the edgiest elves ever.
A bit obvious for Gotrek and Felix is also very good when it comes to dwarves. It has a comic relief Dwarf, but even in his case he's a troubled character that has more depth than seems.
World needs more Goblin Warriors https://i.imgur.com/WKs8aJA.jpg
World needs more Goblin Warriors https://i.imgur.com/WKs8aJA.jpg
Dwarves are awesome. Had I not been a Horde player I'd have gone with them.
Warhammer dwarves by far
They are no joke
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Dwarf
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Gonna be another one recommending Warhammer dwarves as some of the dwarfiest dwarves that ever dwarfed. The Gotrek and Felix Slayer series (Trollslayer, Skavenslayer, Daemonslayer and so on) explores a lot of the Warhammer world through the eyes of a dwarf Slayer (well, his personal remembrancer) and Daemonslayer is the first to have a lot of other dwarves.