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    How much of the "night" is actually void?

    So the "night" of the night elves and nightborne has more to it than we thought. It was mentioned and hinted that their "shadowy" ways made the humans suspicious of these "shadowy" elves, and they stuck them with shadow meld as a racial instead of a star magic related one (which comes later in the Elune buffs of night and day).

    We got some further insights in Legion, with expanded lore and more night sayings like "may the light of elune illumine you, and the night shroud you in darkness"...and we even see the wardnes use some of this magic.

    Then we get the whole Night warrior arc, and we see that while Elune's light side is pure arcane energy, the dark side is pure void - this is very interesting.


    Shadow may at first have been linked to death, but clearly it isn't, there is nothing about the night that is death related..but it is void related now it finally seems. And there is much more to night elves and nightborne and the night.

    the shen'dralar obviously know some secrets about the void - Wrathion tries to search their libraries for more info - he obviously didn't want to ask any living one in case they might be an agent of N'zoth, anyone could be an agent of N'zoth, only the player and Magni along with M.O.T.H.E.R are aware of the full scope of what he was doing/searching for.


    The nightborne are the Shal'dorei - children of the night. I wuld bet my bottom dollar they have same access to the night powers, but we just haven't seen it shown much, only the arcane half - think of the blood elves when they first came out, there was almost little to no expsorue on their light abilities or forest ranger ones, but later it shiffted tot hat. to me, Nightborne will have to be strong in three areas... arcane magic, time magic and night magic - otherwise what's the point of the name right?


    so, is night basically some utilisation of the void that is inherent tot he nocturnal elven group? - is it the second of the power trinity of arcane, night and nature? It seems to fit, but obviously is not an area that is explored much.. hell the arcane part of the night elves has not been shown much in game either - only the nature part.. but a lot more is in the books.

    the books do mention the Pain Mistresses of the order of Elune, but whether that is void or death magic is unknown, looking back now, it seems more likely it was void magic even though they hadn't invented void yet.

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    I speculated that the 'Life' power may draw on the powers of both Light and Void - Light for raw creative force, Void for infinite possibility. Aspects of both powers are necessary to create life, beings that can grow and change but have structure and ordered natures. If Elune is a Life deity, she may have bestowed some elements of both powers on her favored children.

    Though maybe it's even a stretch to talk about all 'shadowy' magic being tied to Void/Shadow, a dark edge may simply be one facet of Life/Nature.

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    Well look at the avatar of revenge that the Wardens summon.
    That has all the Pint of Void. But it seems that Blizzard forgot about the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Yak View Post
    I speculated that the 'Life' power may draw on the powers of both Light and Void - Light for raw creative force, Void for infinite possibility. Aspects of both powers are necessary to create life, beings that can grow and change but have structure and ordered natures. If Elune is a Life deity, she may have bestowed some elements of both powers on her favored children.

    Though maybe it's even a stretch to talk about all 'shadowy' magic being tied to Void/Shadow, a dark edge may simply be one facet of Life/Nature.
    Arcane is also necessary for life.. all the structures, matter that host life are made from the arcane.. it appears light forms the soul or the spirit, void is necessary to distinguish it and contain it, otherwise it would be all spread out. Life is the natural energy it gives off.

    But Elune as life pantheon does not mean she is some exclusive life magic, it means she is one of the deities over all things in the living realm, just like you have those Eternal ones residing over the death realm - they also use all cosmic powers.

    but i think at least 3 cosmic powers at the grass root are involved in creating life. The arcane is what generates the physical elements that create the matter for mountains, seas, wind etc, but also the substance that exists in space because it is the magic that orders matter. you have to put the light soul /seed in something. Call it the spirit.

    And the soul is the personality that develops from this life that is born, it is what goes tto the shadowlands as you while your body remains in the physical realm and nourishes the plants in the cycle of life.

    there are many cycles. The cycle of life speaks of the cycle of the physical bodies that grow, then die and decompose to provide nutrients to new life

    There is death and life which talks of the transition of a soul from life to what lies beyond death and possibly even back again, that is a different cycle. (similar names) etc etc

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