Ghostcrawler to leave Blizzard Entertainment

Originally Posted by Gilian

It could be anything. He could even just be telling the truth. Maybe it's a better opportunity for him personally.

I don't think he has lied about anything so far, all he has said is that he's leaving Blizzard and he has a new opportunity ahead of him (which could be anything, really).

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Originally Posted by Pyromelter

I would not ever feel sorry for someone who is likely making boatloads of money to be what is essentially the director of the most popular role-playing game that has ever existed in the entirety of mankind.

Tom Chilton is lead designer, GC was just lead systems design. Although both of them likely are well compensated...

All you naysayers are a bunch of entitled whiny brats. You flip macdonalds burgers, manage servers, design websites, fix plumbing, (insert other mundane mediocre job in here) etc. and imagine yourself game designers, because you play one pc game alot? You think that gives you the expertise needed to balance a game? You think that entitles you to demand game designs and mechanics that everyone has to live by? Your money entitles you to play the game that is already there. Thats it, thats all you will EVER be entitled to. No more, no less. Learn to deal with it.

Originally Posted by steristumpie

All you naysayers are a bunch of entitled whiny brats. You flip macdonalds burgers, manage servers, design websites, fix plumbing, (insert other mundane mediocre job in here) etc. and imagine yourself game designers, because you play one pc game alot? You think that gives you the expertise needed to balance a game? You think that entitles you to demand game designs and mechanics that everyone has to live by? Your money entitles you to play the game that is already there. Thats it, thats all you will EVER be entitled to. No more, no less. Learn to deal with it.

Plumbers make a lot of money. Just sayin'

Originally Posted by Pyromelter

I would not ever feel sorry for someone who is likely making boatloads of money to be what is essentially the director of the most popular role-playing game that has ever existed in the entirety of mankind.

Being a target comes with the job description - everyone at the top of the mountain has to face that pressure.

As far as GC leaving, it can only be good IMO. From what I could tell, he favored the policies of the more elitist, hardcore types, which I believe has dragged the game down. I also think he shares more blame than some of his defenders are willing to admit (or credit, if you are one who likes the casual-unfriendliness that was implemented in MoP and will worsen in WoD).

Finally, if we see flying implemented before 6.1, I think that would be a large piece of evidence as to why he was let go. And for real, anyone who thinks he is leaving fully on his own volition is deluding themselves.

You might want to examine your own statement, towards the end of that tower of crap. "Deluding themselves"

Yea buddy...

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Originally Posted by steristumpie

All you naysayers are a bunch of entitled whiny brats. You flip macdonalds burgers, manage servers, design websites, fix plumbing, (insert other mundane mediocre job in here) etc. and imagine yourself game designers, because you play one pc game alot? You think that gives you the expertise needed to balance a game? You think that entitles you to demand game designs and mechanics that everyone has to live by? Your money entitles you to play the game that is already there. Thats it, thats all you will EVER be entitled to. No more, no less. Learn to deal with it.

Pretty much this. Surprising how so many 'experts' claim to speak with 'great authority', on iterative game design, balancing classes and numbers and still keep it fresh and interesting, to keep approximately 75 percent of your population playing. Even after 9 years.

Funny as hell. Most of the people happy to see them go, probably would not be able to find their way out of a small town, even if there were giant billboards along the road pointing to the way out.

How much do we bet people will still blame wow-related-stuff on him in a year?

I wont miss him, best of luck to him and all but I'm glad he's not at Blizzard anymore.

Age of Empires 4 or Age of Mythology 2? What is the new business?

Originally Posted by Zmago

How much do we bet people will still blame wow-related-stuff on him in a year?

Well considering he did work on WoD to which what we can fairly assume was unto recently, that isn't exactly an unfair argument to make.

This means another king, Pardo, will take the lead back. I'm quite mixed though, as GC was (let's say it frankly) an exceptional systems designer. He made some mistakes, but we absolutely can't forget all the passionate work he put into slowly building some outstanding, fun class mechanics. Plus his dedication to communication with players. Blizzard loses a great man, here. The king is dead, all hail the new king.

Best news ever

Originally Posted by Drutt

Blizzard being successful in their market has nothing to do with GC's personal career trajectory. If he got a better offer elsewhere, he'd have been insane to turn it down.

I'm sure the vindictive part of the community would love nothing more than for him to have been removed from his position, but the fact is he probably got a higher paying position elsewhere and good luck to him with that.

Honestly, the conspiracy theories...incredible.

Let's say it like this: It's not likely that Blizz tried very hard to keep him. Not exactly surprising given what happened to WoW during the last 3 years...

Someone new will take his throne and absorb the hate.

There must always be a Ghostcrawler.

Thats better , he is from the ppl that making wow low ''Awesomeness'' as we feel in old , he is the reason why we feel Wotlk not like tbc or vanilla , since he come to our world we just didnot see awesome things balance like tbc or vanilla ,
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Many people say now that GC did a good job and so on (often related as GC fanboys), but what exactly you think he did good? To talk to the community in a calm matter? (whats obviously the job of every game designer and community manager). So I want to summarize shortly what I personally feel he did wrong and I dont care If you agree or not. Just sharing my opinion since I started playing WoW classic and quit the game when LFR was released.

1. Classes
GC was a balance freak. The homogenization of classes and their abilities in order to "balance" the game was a clear decision of GC. Some may say, yeah we stacked classes in sunwell and so on (before GC was lead), but I didnt have that experience myself. Neither have I seen many guilds doing this. The only guilds who could do this were the really big ones who had 5 or more good warlocks or shamans. Thats the minority.
Also, to go back a bit further in the past when I just reached lvl60 in vanilla, I really thought this game could be providing fun endlessly to me, since I had so many different classes and unique abilities to figure out. It took ages to get epic gear on 1 class, so I thought this game could take forever, If I had to have all classes being successful and in epic gear.
But now I have no motivation to start playing a new class, since everything feels the same. Homogenization is in my opinion the worst decision that could happen to WoW.

2. Quests
Since I clearly remember GC talking about daily quests and their limit back in Wotlk (25 a day), I really thought this was a bad decision again. Why? Well, why limitate quests, why not grind yourself to the top? Sure grind is boring, but remember: Almost everything was a grind in vanilla, and people still came to the game and played it. The grind made you unique, since you had those things that others didnt have. Feeling elite or unique in your own niche is a good thing!

3. Raids and Dungeons
Well I cant say that GC is responsible for Heroics being easy as shit nowadays and the LFR being a social desaster. But since he is the lead designer, he could have at least try to change the direction in the past years. Did he do so? probably not. I guess they will not remove LFR, neither make the heroics harder again. The point of no return is reached in my opinion. They should make vanilla/tbc servers after WoD (probably last expansion with lvl100), so that veterans can at least play the game they liked and dont bother playing on private vanilla/TBC servers.

Maybe Tigole can change direction, but I dont think he will come back since he is the Lead on Titan. The game is too fcked up in my opinion to change anything.

1) open MMO
2) see GC quitting news
3) resub wow
4) profit ?!!!
fking finally a good news

Smart move, cause a rapid decline in subscriptions and then leave before you can be blamed for the inevitable death of World of Warcraft.

Way too late. He has irreparably destroyed WoW for me. The game probably won't ever recover.

Goodbye Ol Greg...the majority of this community will miss you including me...cya around buddy and best of luck

Weather or not he destroyed the game or you liked the guy he still has been apart of this game we all have played in at one time another for awhile and has made significant changes for the good or worsts. Hopefully he enjoys the new avenue in life.

Now time to sit back and see what Jay Wilson can do with the WoW community!

The Jay Wilson who somewhat deliberately (or he is just clueless) destroyed everything that was good in D2 and released some sort of abomination called D3? That guy?