Edmonton cyclist denied entry to bike shop ‘based on gender’.

[Beery Swine]

If there was a seamstress store that dedicated one day every other week to men only seamstress workshop... I really do not see what's bad about that lol. There probably are a lack of male seamstresses.

Well we simply have a disagreement of opinions and values, then. I'm pretty much for non-discrimination across the board, even in a "see how far you can piss" contest. If a woman wants to enter that contest and they don't let her, I think that's pretty shitty.

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Because that's the level of the analogies in this thread.

Then switch your rationalisation process to one different from neo nazis then people will change the analogys.

They are not new or special just because they get slinged against guys in this thread intolerance really comes not
with allot of variying defenses.

[Fexus]

But analogies can be terrible and inappropriate.

Mine weren't, and they haven't been argued against. Seriously, go back and read this thread.

Or do you disagree?
Do you know who also tend to often disagree with me? Neo-nazi's.
Are you a neo-nazi?
Because that's the level of the analogies in this thread.

That's not an analogy. Thanks for proving me right when I speculated you didn't know what an analogy is.

[Themius]

It couldn't deny service to women.

Apparently they can since men are underrepresented.

Also there are plenty of male only workshops in places that also sell things... so it's not like this is something that only happens "against" men. Really it's not against anyone.

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LOL LOL

We have the same reaction to 90% of the stuff you have stated in this thread, the remainder we are like - She must be a Poe?

Oh damn, I've never laughed so hard. It's funny because they think it's true.

No.

Heaven forbid there are special regulations in place that make sure minorities can get the support they need.

A, Women are not a minority, B, We dont have a problem with the programe, C, We staunchly reject the notion that this is 'support' or 'needed'.
Read your own link there, safer commuter lanes, more people, less hardcore people, proportionally less men.
See? That was how Minneapolis did it - Not with retarded programs that do not even pretend they are working, even to themselves, never mind the fact that this undercuts them completely.

By human rights and by law (in most civilized countries).*

Again, There is no human right to positive discriminaton, the charter allows, does not mandate.

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Best argument against this is really that it helps nobody.

Why arent they banning white people too to make black woman feel more safe?
I mean you should be fine with it.

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it's taking place in the same location.

Then the store must be closed, - yet it isn't - And this is the problem.

You're right a shop can't, a community organization completely run by volunteers,

No, A shop run by community organisers does not have magic law exemption powers.

You can't separate the shop from the community organization.

Yes you can, they are legally distinct entities from a regulatory perspective.

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You really think they should extend the ban to white people in general?

So woman of color can truly feel safe and welcommed?

No argument to ban guys can not be extended to white people in general.
Why draw the line there?

The reason why the line was drawn there was not accidental or by chance.

Its because its the only fucking demografic you people WANT and Will discriminate against.
Stop lying its pure hate in principle.

[Gheld]

You really think they should extend the ban to white people in general?

So woman of color can truly feel safe and welcommed?

No argument to ban guys can not be extended to white people in general.

Lol give it up bro
You've nearly gone full retard. Never go full retard.

[Fexus]

Do you believe this shop is going to be closed down, because what they're doing is clearly illegal in your eyes yes?
Then how come it's still open and the cops didn't come shut it down yet?

Appealing to authority is a fallacy.

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Lol give it up bro
You've nearly gone full retard. Never go full retard.

Why not? Woman of color participate x% less then white woman in bicycle riding.

So its only fair to dedicate Sunday to Woman of Color and Transgendered Woman of Color.

You really get yourself to believe the line was drawn at guys by chance?
Do you really fool yourself into processing it this way?

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Rights allow things. They don't mandate it. ...

Another case of having to explain a word...
Rights denote things you have a right too.
Like Free speech, Assembly, Service, and anti-discrimination.
The human rights charter have exemptions from the last, which allows for positive discrimination.
But and this is the key thing, there is no right to be positively discriminated against.
TL;DR, The charter mandates people have the right to, say free speech, It merely lets the state, if it so wishes, to positively discriminate.
See the difference in the latitude ?

They probably should for certain programs.

What about banning women ? - They are just as transphobic.

[Gheld]

Appealing to authority is a fallacy.

Logical fallacies only apply to objective situations. This is a subjective situation.

[Fexus]

Logical fallacies only apply to objective situations. This is a subjective situation.

No they don't. Saying "the man agrees with me" is not a sound argument despite the nature of the content in question.

[Themius]

Appealing to authority is a fallacy.

^ is a fallacy.

[Fexus]

^ is a fallacy.

Are you proposing that appealing to authority is not a fallacy? Please explain further.

[Themius]

Are you proposing that appealing to authority is not a fallacy? Please explain further.

You're assuming his argument is all wrong because you feel it contains a fallacy. That is a fallacy.

It's a fallacy fallacy.

[taliey]

Sometimes I have to wonder which came first - the SJWs or their detractors?

[Hawgwash]

Sometimes I have to wonder which came first - the SJWs or their detractors?

that's a fallacy

[Fexus]

You're assuming his argument is all wrong because you feel it contains a fallacy. That is a fallacy.

It's a fallacy fallacy.

No it's called an argument. He quite clearly appealed to authority, and appealing to authority does not grant any intrinsic merit to the argument.

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Not always.

Yes it always is. The argument that something is definitely true because those who are in authority say so is always fallacious.