I hate to be negative because I'm a good and pure person, but the film looks like rubbish :/
I hate to be negative because I'm a good and pure person, but the film looks like rubbish :/
As a die-hard fan, I'm very disappointed. Orcs are really too big. Just imagine army of The Mountain clones vs. army of Tyrion Lannister clones. In Warcraft, they have same chances.
Also... the props. For example, the crown in a trailer (Wrynn's) would look ok if it was fake Chinese copy of Warcraft gadgets & toys for $5. The armor looks incredibly like a plastic.
LotR is so old, yet effects are really impressive. Armor of the elves, humans, dwarves, it's amazing and real. Ah, dwarves. The dwarf in the trailer is beyond terrible. They should stick with real actors (hi, Gimli).
I really wanted this movie to be good. But it looks atrocious. Like others have said, the actors look incredibly out of place. Everything is clean and plastic. They had a chance to take risks and make this into something more than just another failure of a video game adaption. But they took the safe route of tropes and special effects in lieu of actual writing. I'm very disappointed.
I won't be seeing the movie but, honestly, I think expectations were way too high for the movie from the beginning. Everyone was excited for a Warcraft movie years and years ago when it was announced they were looking to make one. Everyone had a general idea of what it would be (retelling of the games)
I'm more disappointed in the retcons than anything else. No one would care about the Orcs being shown in a sympathetic light if it were done properly, like in WC3. It's a turn off, and it makes me think that the movie isn't aimed at Warcraft fans.
Meat of the matter will be in movie where Orgrim chooses to begin the siege of Stromwind, after saving Lothar in 1v1 by backstabbing Blackhand, in order to sate the warrior thirst as well as gaining land for his people.
Define "done properly, like in WC3". And what retcons are we talking about?
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So far I think the movie looks to be like a fun time in the theaters. Not as great as I hoped but that was expected seeing how they are making a live action movie of Warcraft. I think that was their main problem, live action. Most of the movie looks CG. I can only imagine these actors jumping around and swinging their swords at nothing with a huge green screen surrounding them. Basically playing pretend. What really bugs me is how the Dwarves are CG as well. To me this is lazy and cheap. I mean if you're going to be making some awesome Warcraft movie put the time and effort into it and make it a quality movie. As I said in another Warcraft movie thread what is the point in making movies with live actors when 70% of the movie is CG?
In any case I'll most likely be seeing this in the theaters, hopefully. Despite the amount of CG it still looks like a fun movie to watch and that's the whole point of watching a movie is to have fun, to be entertained. If you criticize and nit pick at every small thing in movies you'll have a hard time watching anything. I just watch the movies for what they are and I enjoy them. It's annoying when I'm with my friends and they nitpick at every small detail. It's hard to enjoy yourself when other people are constantly being negative about it. It's really annoying. Might even see this one by myself.
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lol I'm really shocked about the backlash against this film here.
Many even saying this movie sucks while it didn't come out yet and we saw just about 3-4 minutes out of probably 2+ hours? Besides, 90% of this criticism comes from the CGI aspect. I'm not saying VFX aren't important (especially in a blockbuster like this), but we know really a few things about how the film is gonna be, if the script is good or not (Duncan Jones is co-writing it, so it could be really good), if the actors and corrispondent characters will be charismatic (Travis Fimmel is a great actor. Look at his role in Vikings to see), if the directing itself will be intriguing (for example I read too few comments about the shot of Lothar jumping toward the gryphon and then flying towards the battlefield in that vertiginous sequence), how the music is gonna be (no, it won't be a dubstep thing, and the music in that leaked ComicCon video sounds awesome).
So why saying that the movie sucks based only on 3-4 minutes because "CGI sucks"? On the other way, maybe this is a good thing, so audience will probably be surprised to see, in the theaters, an actually good film (even great, if Duncan did something at the level of his previous films).
So, if I have to talk about the CGI... it looks mostly good, in a few parts even amazing, and in other few parts bad.
The shot of Stormwind (the one with copy-pasted people) and baby Thrall are the ones that I really can't stand.
But I can't see how the rest is so hated here.
The dwarf looks good to me and Lothar doesn't seem to be that off in that famous shot. I love that dwarf design, really close to the videogames one, and I think there was no way to make it with just make-up. Remember: this is NOT LotR. Warcraft is another thing.
Also, I was surprised to read criticism for the crown or even the table... seems a bit much nitpicky here. They are things that when you will watch the movie you won't even notice, IMO.
Then, other criticism I read: the humans look too little and weak compared to the giant orcs?
I mean, you even noticed what Lothar do to Blackhand (I presume it's him, at least)? He looks like "Yeah, so easy to kill these orcs".
Also Garona fighting with that orc in the latest spot doesn't look to be in disadvantage at all, despite her being physically basically a human with green skin.
I think orcs are going to be bigger but slower than humans, in this movie.
Khadgar's actor and hairstyle felt out of place to me too at first, but now after seeing him in action in the latest spots he seems he could actually be a cool character in the movie.
Garona looks good in some shots and bad in others (I blame it one the weird little fangs, more than the make-up).
That said, I agree with many of you that the teaser trailer was a bit disappointing, but with these spots my hype for the movie is growing up incredibly fast! I think they are cool spots (except for some music choice, but whatever... this is not a thing we should worry about, since the composer for the film is not the Prodigy lmao)
I agree with the plastic looking armor comments.
I also agree that young Khadgar with the goofy haircut is cringeworthy at best.
I will definitely still be seeing this movie, but am preparing myself for massive disappointment. If it turns out to be great I will be pleasantly surprised.
Yes, because the writing is whats going to save the Warcraft Movie. You can't judge a movie based on a trailer. True, but I'm not very optimistic when the actors look like the came from the Josh Hartnett school of acting while being dressed in terrible cosplay. And there is no excuse for such atrocious cgi when we live in a world where a guy with an iphone and $60 design software can make something look more convincing. I don't even think a fan made recut could make this look better, like it did with Ghostbusters. From what I've seen so far, it's bad.
I don't fully agree with the criticism to the acting: the actors IMO for now can be judged only for how they look like, since the trailer and spots are not giving us almost any information about their acting skills. They're just not famous superstars, but if they're talente, why not giving them the benefit of the doubt? As I said before, Travis Fimmel was great in Vikings, while I don't know much about the other actors, so I guess we'll see in June.
But if you talk about how they look like, then I can agree with you, but this is not due to the actors, but mainly to the costume (or CGI in some cases) department, especially if we talk about the super clean armors.
The CGI atrocius moments, IMO, are only the two I listed in my previous tweets. But to say Warcraft's CGI is atrocious is not correct to me, and I think many of us are being nitpicky on the few poor CGI shots forgetting about visual masterpieces like Durotan's close shot (can't post links now, but it's the famous one in the first trailer right after he says the "whatever happens" line).
I put that as example but there are other many beautiful shots like Lothar vs Blackhand, Orgrim and Durotan talking, the gryphon, Durotan roaring, Dalaran shot, the battle shots, etc
Strange that so many people are surprised by the fact that the Orcs are so much physically superior to humans. It was like that from the beginning of the series. Orcs were bigger and stronger, but the humans had numbers and tactics. In Warcraft 3, a human footman has 420HP and 12.5 attack rating. An orc grunt has 700/800HP and 19.5 attack rating.
PS: A Tauren warrior has 1300HP, and 33 attack rating.
Expecting this to be bad, hoping it will be good.
At the very least It'll be worth checking out, probably going to see it with a huge group of friends at Anime Expo.
It honestly amazes me that people don't get that Warhammer 40k is supposed to be intentionally horrible. It's a parody and exaggeration of 1980's edginess. I mean it literally coined the term "Grimdark" which for pretty much every other use of the term is to describe a setting that is so dark and edgy, it's funny. It's one of the best satirical works of our time.
If it is supposed to be satirical, the fans and creators must have forgotten it
Jokes aside, I havent see anything that is supposedly very comedic to translate the nature of a satire.
Yeah, the orks can be goofy but that is as much as you get.
Most seem to treat it as a serious epic sci fi
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