Happy Ending Massages

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I don't really care if someone pays for sex. Doesn't really matter to me.

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You're literally scum if you take use of that.

I personally can never see myself doing it, but why?

I mean, one party is offering...and the other party can relax and enjoy. Both parties win.

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I don't really care if someone pays for sex. Doesn't really matter to me.

It only becomes an issue when someone is doing it because they are forced to do so.

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I guess it can help people with deep confidence issues and a strange view on the world, that need this kind of weird boost to believe in themselves, but it hardly helps anyone else.

and what gives you confidence ?

[oxymoronic]

So because someone has a different approach to sex/sexual acts, and sees them as more than just sex/sexual acts, their opinion is garbage? Interesting.

Personally, I really don't think highly of paying for those things. But to each their own.

basically yes...

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basically yes...

Yes to the first or second paragraph?

[Sonatine185]

I went to a high end massage parlor in NY. You had to make a reservation beforehand rofl. They gave you a pretty good professional massage first then gave you a professional happy ending. It was bittersweet.

[Repefe]

Never did it, but neiteher do I see it as degrading. Are massages degrading ? Are medical actions degrading, if they have to deal with poop or asshole ? Are nurse jobs degrading, if they have to put dipers on some old ppl ? It's just a body. Grow up.

[oxymoronic]

I love it how people that accept and pay for a service are disgusting but the people offering it are oppressed.

people weird like that. they do the reverse on drug dealing though... seems whatever the male is most likely to be is their target.

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Yes to the first or second paragraph?

only one question mark...

[May90]

So to be clear, you don't believe that experience builds confidence?

I believe that confidence comes from within, and while experience can help build it for people with certain mentality who see the experience reassuring them about their worth and such, ultimately I don't think real confidence can come from that. Not from sex anyway.

and what gives you confidence ?

Appropriate mentality, I think.

[BuckSparkles]

Happy Ending Massages?

That seems like something that only happens in porn and not IRL.

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only one question mark...

Care to elaborate why their opinion is garbage then?

[Mistame]

I believe that confidence comes from within, and while experience can help build it for people with certain mentality who see the experience reassuring them about their worth and such, ultimately I don't think real confidence can come from that. Not from sex anyway.

Doing something, whether it's starting a new job and learning the ropes, getting on stage in front others or even having sex, builds confidence in that regard. This is fairly basic and common knowledge.

[Bristae]

Your grossly limited perspective on the "fundamental" nature of human behavior (but mostly women's, let's be real) does not equal objective reality. A guy who says things like, "Most women will deny it, but most if not all, have used sex as a weapon, incentive, or control. It is one of the most fundamental things that they can wield. Wives use it as a "Good Boy" and they withhold it to manipulate a situation. "If you buy that/go there! No sex later!"

2) I have found that a majority of women like Tilli that as 100% against it are ones that have used it a mean to an end in a relationship. See above, it is a loss of power in the situation. How can they withhold from someone something that they can go pay for?" and then is shocked to be told he doesn't trust or think much of women is really not in a position to make claims about "fundamental natures," given that he doesn't even grasp his own.

so what is the "problem" with this author? Does SHE not trust women either?

https://blackandmarriedwithkids.com/.../#.VvBf2vkrKUk

or maybe this WOMAN is is bonkers to think it is so possible that SHE had to write a blog about 7 signs that you are doing it! Maybe she doesn't trust herself?

http://love.allwomenstalk.com/signs-...ex-as-a-weapon

or maybe this article is actually a work of fiction....... WRITTEN BY A WOMAN...

http://www.fireengineering.com/artic...-a-weapon.html

Look these are all articles written by women who took the time to honestly look at the issue and acknowledge that it happens.

2) I have found that a majority of women like Tilli that as 100% against it are ones that have used it a mean to an end in a relationship. See above, it is a loss of power in the situation. How can they withhold from someone something that they can go pay for?" and then is shocked to be told he doesn't trust or think much of women is really not in a position to make claims about "fundamental natures," given that he doesn't even grasp his own.

I am very comfortable trusting the words of these women. Why? because they looked at it honestly and without pretense. They, being women, ARE in a position to make claims about the "Fundamental Natures" of marriages and relationships. I grasp my own nature very well. I have acknowledged my faults to my Spouse. yes, i am not a 21 year old pup, but a 40 year old MARRIED male who has been married for 20 years. My wife and I had this conversation when I went home for lunch and SHE even agreed, after denying it at first, that she has done this in the past.

Take it as you will.

[May90]

Doing something, whether it's starting a new job and learning the ropes, getting on stage in front others or even having sex, builds confidence in that regard. This is fairly basic and common knowledge.

Yes. Having sex builds confidence in having sex. Having sex only builds confidence in general and in interacting with women if you see having had sex as something proving your worth, or something like that. Like all those people who are afraid of "dying a virgin", because they see having had sex as something that makes them into a "real man/woman". But these people apparently have much deeper issues, and I don't think what they would get in the end could be called "confidence".

[Levelfive]

so what is the "problem" with this author? Does SHE not trust women either?

https://blackandmarriedwithkids.com/.../#.VvBf2vkrKUk

or maybe this WOMAN is is bonkers to think it is so possible that SHE had to write a blog about 7 signs that you are doing it! Maybe she doesn't trust herself?

http://love.allwomenstalk.com/signs-...ex-as-a-weapon

or maybe this article is actually a work of fiction....... WRITTEN BY A WOMAN...

http://www.fireengineering.com/artic...-a-weapon.html

Look these are all articles written by women who took the time to honestly look at the issue and acknowledge that it happens.



I am very comfortable trusting the words of these women. Why? because they looked at it honestly and without pretense. They, being women, ARE in a position to make claims about the "Fundamental Natures" of marriages and relationships. I grasp my own nature very well. I have acknowledged my faults to my Spouse. yes, i am not a 21 year old pup, but a 40 year old MARRIED male who has been married for 20 years. My wife and I had this conversation when I went home for lunch and SHE even agreed, after denying it at first, that she has done this in the past.

Take it as you will.

Are you arguing that women never say stupid shit so these women are immune to criticism? I don't even think those opinion pieces you linked asserted, as you did, that "most if not all women" use sex as a weapon. You may not be a "21 year old pup," but you sure as shit talk like one.

[Katie N]

Didn't you know, a random internet persons opinion is literally the most important thing on the planet, and must instantly be argued back into place! I think Tiili is going to score "Most quoted post" ever in this thread if this carries on.

Feels like it it is said for provoking. xD

[ItachiZaku]

Yes. Having sex builds confidence in having sex. Having sex only builds confidence in general and in interacting with women if you see having had sex as something proving your worth, or something like that. Like all those people who are afraid of "dying a virgin", because they see having had sex as something that makes them into a "real man/woman". But these people apparently have much deeper issues, and I don't think what they would get in the end could be called "confidence".

I wouldn't think they'd get it (confidence) by paying for it though. Unless they paid for a lot of it to "get good" at it. Which... just seems desperate and expensive. Assuming it's expensive at least.

[Deleted]

Feels like it it is said for provoking. xD

Meh, Tiili is just baiting for attention, as per usual.

[Deleted]

Every single day of life we pay women for sex, our entire society is setup in this way and ignorance to that may be politically correct but it's foolish.

[TwoNineMarine]

This may or may not have happened in Okinawa once or....twice...